"wakaka Heritage Collection 1912"

[Rewpert]

Hello,

 

I saw this new knock-off Mont Blanc 1912 "Safety" pen. Looks to be a variation on the similar Hero knock-off - but without the cap band and available in red!

 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000706177831.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000014.45.4d2b7889QW2gV2&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.14976.165864.0&scm_id=1007.14976.165864.0&scm-url=1007.14976.165864.0&pvid=8ac995ae-5c77-4c15-92dc-26366c2a7f1e&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.14976.165864.0,pvid:8ac995ae-5c77-4c15-92dc-26366c2a7f1e,tpp_buckets:668%230%23131923%2391_668%23808%237756%23421_668%23888%233325%231_4976%230%23165864%230_4976%232711%237538%23981_4976%233104%239653%232_4976%233141%239887%234_668%232846%238113%23644_668%232717%237563%23590_668%231000022185%231000066056%230_668%233422%2315392%23986

 

Has anyone got any information on this pen?

 

I'm particularly interested in knowing whether the metal appointments are brass and what the barrel is made of - as well as more generally "is it any good as a pen".

 

Its obviously quite expensive, particularly compared to the Hero version which comes with a 'gold' nib.

 

Cheers,

 

'Rew.

[jchch1950]

The red pen looks interesting.

[MoriartyR]

Should we really be supporting this sort of thing? It’s straight theft of intellectual property. Whether this is legal in China or not, it is surely still wrong.

[picautomaton]

You get what you pay for

 

Agree with Moriarty

[PAKMAN]

The whole site is a Mont Blanc clone factory! Basically a theft ring! I wouldn't buy anything from them. Besides they may just keep your money!

[como]

This stuff is intellectually, artistically, and commercially disgusting. It should be reported to Montblanc.

[Honeybadgers]

The whole site is a Mont Blanc clone factory! Basically a theft ring! I wouldn't buy anything from them. Besides they may just keep your money!

 

 

That's like 100% incorrect on so many levels.

 

It's outrageously rare to get scammed on aliexpress.

 

The site is one of the biggest retail vendors on earth. They sell an absolutely obscenely gigantic variety of things.

 

The pen itself is pushing knockoff more than the hero, that's for sure. The nib in particular is really bad.

 

The hero has been around long enough that I'd wager it isn't IP theft. It has enough of its own design features to call into question that it's just another safety pen design.

 

This one however mimics the nib, the clip, the clip MOUNT, the white cap jewel, everything.

[Karmachanic]

 

The pen itself is pushing knockoff more than the hero, that's for sure. The nib in particular is really bad.

 

Please expound.

[MadAsAHatter]

I'm borrowing this from Cyclohexene that was posted in another topic. It makes me laugh & seems fitting here too.

 

Let's start playing the knock-off/homage bingo:

1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10
11 12 FS 13 14
15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24

1: it's a knock-off
2: it's an homage
3: it's fine because they don't use the MB logo
4: the factory making these probably also make the fake MBs
5: it's making the design more accessible
6: people who can afford real MB won't buy it
7: it cheapens real MB
8: it affects real MB sales
9: there are no copyright laws in China
10: they are not infringing any copyright laws
11: the design is old enough for the protection to expire and it's now public domain
12: I would never give my money to fake sellers
13: I would never spend that much money on a real MB
14: *inflammatory remarks about labour law*
15: "Show me what patent they are infringing. You can't, can you!?"
16: I'm not a lawyer, but...
17: but people like it when they copy the P51
18: the P51 is no longer in production, but the MB is still being produced
19: normal people can't afford the real thing
20: people should save up for the real thing if they really want it
21: every pen copies the first FP in history
22: it makes the market more competitive and benefits consumers
23: it kills innovation and originality
24: *off topic comments that derail the thread*

[A Smug Dill]

The site is one of the biggest retail vendors on earth. They sell an absolutely obscenely gigantic variety of things.

 

AliExpress is not a retail vendor, any more than eBay is a retail vendor. It's not like Amazon at all.

Edited September 9, 2020 by A Smug Dill

[Fueller]

Thanks, everyone, for posting this.  That specific URL does not work any more.  All that being said, I think I got one of these - a Wakaka clone of Montblanc Heritage 1912.  The seller I got it from on eBay identified it as a Hero H718, but all the H718s I found online had too many differences.  I finally gave up googling "Hero" and different varieties of "1912," "Heritage," "1914" and other words; I simply went with with . . . i don't remember, but I found this, which seems to be the successor to the one in the original post -  https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256803573423216.html?src=google&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=708-803-3821&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&albagn=888888&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&albcp=19108282527&albag=&trgt=&crea=en3256803573423216&netw=x&device=c&albpg=&albpd=en3256803573423216&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiApOyqBhDlARIsAGfnyMoB4SxesJuyjDk0UMAp6hW5h496emAU1t6H4fqYjplk5GBBwTTVp1YaAgUXEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds&aff_fcid=60affae895664a7da9f42db42a3a98af-1700542999057-08396-UneMJZVf&aff_fsk=UneMJZVf&aff_platform=aaf&sk=UneMJZVf&aff_trace_key=60affae895664a7da9f42db42a3a98af-1700542999057-08396-UneMJZVf&terminal_id=7ac111aab7594556889d616926a14178&afSmartRedirect=y&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa -

 

The orange with silver clip is what I have.  I paid a hefty $3.29 for each pen in a bundle of eight Chinese pens.  But I think this pen is from the Philippines, as that is where Wakaka seems to be.  The pen writes just fine and operates well so far.  I just inked it today with some Sailor ink.  Interesting pen.  But I would be very surprised if Montblanc wasn't doing something about this.  Doesn't feel right. 

                             Best regards and very best wishes for a festive Thanksgiving with friends or family,

                                               David