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1 hour ago, Lam1 said:

 

That is an amazing collection, @christof!

I will likely never see any of these "in the flesh". 

 

They are beautiful.

 

Lam1: Come to the 2025 Pelikan Hub in Vienna and you will see a few like those (and hold them in your hand). 😊

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<That is an amazing collection> wrote Lam1 and I'm in total agreement!

 

Bravo, Christof!  

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On 12/10/2024 at 10:36 AM, christof said:

some new familiy fotos of the flock:

 

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Ahhh… lovely as ever. Nice to see your post, @christof  :)

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12 hours ago, carola said:

 

They are beautiful.

 

Lam1: Come to the 2025 Pelikan Hub in Vienna and you will see a few like those (and hold them in your hand). 😊

 

 

Oh, I would really, really love to go back to Vienna - I stayed there for 5 months in 2002 (sadly, despite already using FPs at the time, an Inoxcrom, I knew nothing about them and it didn't occur to me to search for FPs other than the MBs that were readily available but outside my budget).

Being there during the hub would just be the icing on the cake.

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@christof :puddle:

Ruth Morisson aka inkstainedruth

 

ETA: I'd like to know more about the grey one in the second row (not, of course, that I'd likely ever be able to AFFORD one, of course... :wallbash:)

 

"It's very nice, but frankly, when I signed that list for a P-51, what I had in mind was a fountain pen."

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Pelikan 100 is a very old, praised and special family of pens, IMHO.

Those which are still there have survived 80-95 years, in environments which weren’t always friendly.

Here’s a family photo of some of the members I’ve succesfully gathered & kept during last 14 years of my fountain pen enthusiasm.

Dating: between 1932 & 1936.

Worth mentioning is that each of them, not only being of special appearance within #100 standards, also happens to be a “dream writer”. Else I wouldn’t have kept them:

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Nibs (L->R): F, O, M, EF(very flex), B, R, OBB, ST, F

Pity I don’t even have a fraction of photographer’s talent, knowledge, skills, patience and equipmet of @christof, so I could capture at least a glimpse of their true colorful beauty. All I can share is just this humble cellphone photo, instead.

🙂

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14 hours ago, stoen said:

Pelikan 100 is a very old, praised and special family of pens, IMHO.

Those which are still there have survived 80-95 years, in environments which weren’t always friendly.

Here’s a family photo of some of the members I’ve succesfully gathered & kept during last 14 years of my fountain pen enthusiasm.

Dating: between 1932 & 1936.

Worth mentioning is that each of them, not only being of special appearance within #100 standards, also happens to be a “dream writer”. Else I wouldn’t have kept them:

100PensSmall.thumb.jpeg.04c67bbd34f36e55240822acefe778e7.jpeg

Nibs (L->R): F, O, M, EF(very flex), B, R, OBB, ST, F

Pity I don’t even have a fraction of photographer’s talent, knowledge, skills, patience and equipmet of @christof, so I could capture at least a glimpse of their true colorful beauty. All I can share is just this humble cellphone photo, instead.

🙂

Beautiful colors and you did take a great picture showing them! 

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On 12/11/2024 at 4:16 PM, stoen said:

Pelikan 100 is a very old, praised and special family of pens, IMHO.

Those which are still there have survived 80-95 years, in environments which weren’t always friendly.

Here’s a family photo of some of the members I’ve succesfully gathered & kept during last 14 years of my fountain pen enthusiasm.

Dating: between 1932 & 1936.

Worth mentioning is that each of them, not only being of special appearance within #100 standards, also happens to be a “dream writer”. Else I wouldn’t have kept them:

100PensSmall.thumb.jpeg.04c67bbd34f36e55240822acefe778e7.jpeg

Nibs (L->R): F, O, M, EF(very flex), B, R, OBB, ST, F

Pity I don’t even have a fraction of photographer’s talent, knowledge, skills, patience and equipmet of @christof, so I could capture at least a glimpse of their true colorful beauty. All I can share is just this humble cellphone photo, instead.

🙂

 

Wow, these are fantastic @stoen! :puddle::puddle:

And an incredible spread of nibs!

 

 

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4 hours ago, Lam1 said:

Wow, these are fantastic

Thanks, @Lam1. Thanks, @RedPie.

 

The point I wanted to make is that the frequently repeated “finding” that there had only been one nuance of green, which developed differences by fading away throughout the decades, does not seem to hold for early years (1931-36). Apart from blue, red, black and few more colors, which I don’t have:

 

https://www.pelikan-collectibles.com/en/Pelikan/Models/index.html

 

There had also been a spectrum of black/tortoise & black/brown-marbled pens, probably assembled in Vienna, Zagreb, Sofia (and possibly Gdańsk) factories… …ableit the Emegê, exclusively made for Portuguese speaking market…

 

 

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7 hours ago, stoen said:

Thanks, @Lam1. Thanks, @RedPie.

 

The point I wanted to make is that the frequently repeated “finding” that there had only been one nuance of green, which developed differences by fading away throughout the decades, does not seem to hold for early years (1931-36). Apart from blue, red, black and few more colors, which I don’t have:

 

https://www.pelikan-collectibles.com/en/Pelikan/Models/index.html

 

There had also been a spectrum of black/tortoise & black/brown-marbled pens, probably assembled in Vienna, Zagreb, Sofia (and possibly Gdańsk) factories… …ableit the Emegê, exclusively made for Portuguese speaking market…

 

 

Same holds true for the 100N also, there is quite a bit of variation in the binde colors.

 

For example, the bog-standard post-1949 100N, of which I have a sample of eight, range from grey to deeper green, and that is most definitely not due the UV-light fading that you sometimes see in green-striped 400 (the part of the binde covered by the cap has stayed original deeper green), but also to a lesser extent in 400 Tortoise also.

 

Naturally, there are some minor differences in darkness and depth of color from side to side due to the natural variance in the celluloid acetate sheets those binde were made of but that does not complicate setting those pens side to side on a spectrum from grey to green. Hence, I think we can safely exclude UV-fading as the culprit.

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On 12/13/2024 at 3:34 PM, mana said:

Same holds true for the 100N also, there is quite a bit of variation in the binde colors

Thanks, I dare agree, @mana. True that 100N was a more “industrialized” pen, especially the post-1948 series, and the Milan series: much tighter standards, much less variation. Yet, in the photos, there is a substantial variation in color, which cannot be ascribed to light and time only. Yes, it is true that acetate tends to acquire a yellowish nuance with time. Yes, it seems that a bit of “captop effect” might even be seen in pen#1 and pen#3. 

Still, the color variation is too diverse, too pen-specific and too even for each particular binde to be caused solely by decay, and most of them are different nuances of green. All of them look good and well preserved.

 

I’ve also seen detached green 100 and 100N bindes from outside and from inside, and got an impression how much can decades of regular use affect the color: not this much.

 

Even in 400 series pens, it can often be seen that one side got more sunlight, not to repeatedly mention the “cap top effect”.

 

Therefore I agree that the prevailing opinion of only one green nuance is worth reconsidering, although they were all marketed just as “green”.


 

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…we can safely exclude UV-fading as the culprit…

 

…as well as natural material decay in normal closed space conditions.

 

Here are three more pre-ww2 green 100 pens to compare. Can’t imagine their colors could have been the same some time ago:

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On 12/11/2024 at 11:16 PM, stoen said:

Nibs (L->R): F, O, M, EF(very flex), B, R, OBB, ST, F

Just a little correction: The nib of the rightmost pen is not F, but O8. Please pardon my mistake.

🙂

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