Please Help To Identify This Waterman

[Chris26]

Hello, I got this pen, I thought that was a 94, but is not. it got some kind of ink vue, and the lever looks like the same lever system as the Lady Patrician ink vue. I got two questions, first of all what is this waterman model? it got a No.4 keyhole nib, and second what kind of ink sac it fits to this pen? thank you in advance for your answers.

 

 

Edited June 3, 2020 by Chris26

[Addertooth]

This is an earlier generation ink-vue for your comparison.

 

 

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Edited June 4, 2020 by Addertooth

[Chris26]

This is an earlier generation ink-vue for your comparison.

 

 

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That was I thought, but the thing is that one is one pice barrel, where I could find a sac for this pen? because I read that Late-production Ink-Vue pens with one-piece barrels use a still different form of replacement diaphragm which is no longer in production. it is that true? many thanks

[Addertooth]

There have been several very good restorers who have tried to nail down a "repeatable technique" to replace the latex sac which is used to "pump" the pen. Thus far, they have had spotty luck at consistently repairing this later version of the pen. Personally, I avoid buying this model due to this challenge. Keep in mind that Keyhole nibs are great writers, and usually worth transplanting to other pens.

[Chris26]

There have been several very good restorers who have tried to nail down a "repeatable technique" to replace the latex sac which is used to "pump" the pen. Thus far, they have had spotty luck at consistently repairing this later version of the pen. Personally, I avoid buying this model due to this challenge. Keep in mind that Keyhole nibs are great writers, and usually worth transplanting to other pens.

Indeed it is a great writer, in fact the reason I wanted to fix the filling system it is because the nib is a wet noodle one that goes from F to BBBB without stressing the nib at all and the pen itself it is in good shape.

[Addertooth]

I would suggest you contact a demi-god level pen restorer, if you are serious about restoring your pen.

Richard Bender did an article about the steps to repair the pen. I provide the link below.

 

http://richardspens.com/ref/repair/ink_vue_2.htm

[Chris26]

I would suggest you contact a demi-god level pen restorer, if you are serious about restoring your pen.

Richard Bender did an article about the steps to repair the pen. I provide the link below.

 

http://richardspens.com/ref/repair/ink_vue_2.htm

Wow, that looks like really complicated. thank you for he link. The one I got you are not able to take out the 'crown" from the barrel. Anyway even though, like I said look really tough.

[Scrawler]

This pen was not really designed to be fixed. The repair person needs to acquire or make special tools. It is actually a pump filler with a short sac that is pumped several times by the over complicated lever mechanism. In principle it is the same mechanism as in this pen, but with a complex lever to squeeze the sac.

 

[Scrawler]

Indeed it is a great writer, in fact the reason I wanted to fix the filling system it is because the nib is a wet noodle one that goes from F to BBBB without stressing the nib at all and the pen itself it is in good shape.

This is mine. It is Canadian and also has a very flexible nib. It is a very nice and juicy writer.

 

 

It was restored by Gerry, one of the FPN moderators at the time. He made the tools to fix it. Unfortunately one of the lever box tabs was stressed after many false starts at putting it back in.