What Parkers Have Joined Your Collection Lately?

[mallymal1]

3 hours ago, mitto said:

This stickerd uninked P51 Vac set. It is datecoded 3rd quayer, 1946. It arrived yesterday evening. 

 

What do the 63 / and 31 / on the stickers on  FP and MP respectively signify? 

 

 

 

That would be the price, mitto. Pre decimalisation (1971) Pounds, shillings and pence.

 

63/-  would be 63 shillings / 0 pence.

 

There were 20 shillings to £1. 

 

So, the 63 shillings would have been £3 and 3 shillings.

 

Thank goodness for decimalisation.  

[Armo]

£3 3s 0d ...or three guineas if you prefer.

[inkstainedruth]

I thought I'd read someplace that "guineas" was reserved for gold coins, and was technically slightly more than a regular pound (sterling).  Or was that all in the past?

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[mallymal1]

Had a package from Argentina. All the FP's are 45's, all have the 61 style clip, all have peaked cap tops and barrel ends, and all have steel nibs with unmarked collars. None of the pens have date codes.

 

 

From top...

Insignia set

Dark / Midnight Blue Custom.

3rd Gen Flighter GT

 

The Custom cap, and the Insignia have all round lines, while the Jotter style ball pen has the five lines.

The blue of the Custom pen is not as bright as in the picture, and the barrel has a peaked gold disc end.

The gold of the Insignia barrel isn't worn, it's just a reflection.

 

Happy with this little lot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Number99]

On 8/26/2022 at 6:03 PM, mallymal1 said:

Had a package from Argentina. All the FP's are 45's, all have the 61 style clip, all have peaked cap tops and barrel ends, and all have steel nibs with unmarked collars. None of the pens have date codes.

 

 

From top...

Insignia set

Dark / Midnight Blue Custom.

3rd Gen Flighter GT

 

The Custom cap, and the Insignia have all round lines, while the Jotter style ball pen has the five lines.

The blue of the Custom pen is not as bright as in the picture, and the barrel has a peaked gold disc end.

The gold of the Insignia barrel isn't worn, it's just a reflection.

 

Happy with this little lot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's a very cool pen.

 

 I know it's an optical illusion, but is the custom model barrel end thinner than the standard model barrel end?

 Are the barrel ends of the pens on both sides thicker than the standard model?

 

[Paul-in-SF]

On 8/25/2022 at 7:56 PM, inkstainedruth said:

I thought I'd read someplace that "guineas" was reserved for gold coins, and was technically slightly more than a regular pound (sterling).  Or was that all in the past?

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

As I understand it, a guinea was equal to 21 shillings, or one pound plus one shilling, or 5% more. I imagine the guinea coin was gold, but I don't know. And guineas disappeared when decimalization came in. 

 

I found a dated currency converter, and 4.5 guineas would have converted to under $11 at the time; I think Sterling suffered some declines due to the war. Even so, the inflation calculator says that would be $167 today. 

 

My contribution to the thread is the two 51 vacumatic double-jewels I bought at the SF pen show yesterday, one first year (1941) in Dove Gray with aluminum jewels, and one from 1945 in Cordovan Brown (I know it looks like Burgundy, but trust me). I have mentioned them in another thread, but here I am providing a photo. 

 

[mallymal1]

11 hours ago, Number99 said:

It's a very cool pen.

 

 I know it's an optical illusion, but is the custom model barrel end thinner than the standard model barrel end?

 Are the barrel ends of the pens on both sides thicker than the standard model?

 

 

@Number99

 

I find the Custom barrel end to be the same width as the USA Custom I have, and also same as Classic and Arrow barrel ends. 

 

I now have two Gen 3 Argentinian Insignias, and find them both to be 1mm wider than a French 3rd Gen Insignia.

 

The Flighter I find to be the same width as equivalent 3rd Gen UK Flighters. 

[IThinkIHaveAProblem]

12 hours ago, Paul-in-SF said:

 

As I understand it, a guinea was equal to 21 shillings, or one pound plus one shilling, or 5% more. I imagine the guinea coin was gold, but I don't know. And guineas disappeared when decimalization came in. 

 

I found a dated currency converter, and 4.5 guineas would have converted to under $11 at the time; I think Sterling suffered some declines due to the war. Even so, the inflation calculator says that would be $167 today. 

 

My contribution to the thread is the two 51 vacumatic double-jewels I bought at the SF pen show yesterday, one first year (1941) in Dove Gray with aluminum jewels, and one from 1945 in Cordovan Brown (I know it looks like Burgundy, but trust me). I have mentioned them in another thread, but here I am providing a photo. 

 

Gorgeous pens

 

 i want a cordovan double jewel some day

 

 congrats

[Number99]

2 hours ago, mallymal1 said:

 

@Number99

 

I find the Custom barrel end to be the same width as the USA Custom I have, and also same as Classic and Arrow barrel ends. 

 

I now have two Gen 3 Argentinian Insignias, and find them both to be 1mm wider than a French 3rd Gen Insignia.

 

The Flighter I find to be the same width as equivalent 3rd Gen UK Flighters. 

Thank you for taking the measurements.

 

 I now have a better understanding of the Parker 45 fp barrel geometry.

 

[Number99]

I have successfully acquired a gray color version of the Parker 45 Coronet.

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/363664-i-got-this-pen-today/?do=findComment&comment=4558364

 

 

 

 

[inkstainedruth]

Recently (as in the past couple of weeks) it's been:

1. Parker 45, M nib -- in what I THINK is the "Rage Red" color -- with the old-style squeeze converter already installed (in in what I presume is the original box).

2. Parker Vector, F nib -- "Looney Toons" series Sylvester from 1999 (interesting in that it was NOS, and the packaging materials for the pen and cartridge appeared to have been written in Dutch...).

3. Parker 21, F or EF nib -- black -- not sure of the age of the pen, but it seems to write well and have no cracks in the barrel or hood (it had residual ink in the pen -- which is now reconstituted -- when I went to flush it out...).

(4.) Parker 51 Aerometric, EF or F nib -- not sure of the color, which the seller described as "brown" -- but guessing it may turn out to be burgundy; it may be out for delivery this upcoming (Tuesday) afternoon, according to the message from eBay....

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[Armo]

I've been quite busy on the Parker front this last month. I have acquired a rage red Parker 61, a black 1954 Parker 51 aerometric and a cordovan brown 1947 Parker 51 vacumatic. I even managed to get a little Parker Lady. The vacumatic is the most interesting as it was made in England and the year figure is in inverted commas. A nod to the fact that '47 was the first year that they were made in England? It has a blue diamond style cap minus the blue and a '47 Canadian nib so I guess production was not quite in full swing.

[Visoflex]

A black aerometric Parker 51.  Nothing particularly special about that.  However, it was my Dad’s and he died last week.  It’s cap jewel is missing, the clip is broken, and it has a broad nib, which doesn’t suit my writing.  I gave it a good soaking, and after the dried ink came out, the next to come out was a brown goo.  I already have a 51 that’s filled with Diamine Sapphire ink, but that’s not the point.  
 

Its off to the mender for an overhaul, replacement clip and jewel together with a new fine nib.  This pen will then be used with Diamine Majestic Purple ink, and I’ll remember my Dad.

[inkstainedruth]

Well, two more at the Commonwealth Pen Show a couple of weekends ago:

1) a Lapis Lazuli Lady Duofold Lucky Curve ringtop with a very nice OM (?) nib; I've wanted a pen in that color for a number of years now, and the nib was just a bonus.

2) another black Parker 45, with a 14K B nib.  Did I need another black one?  Not really -- I think I now have THREE of them (the original cheapie from back when I first started on FPN, which was my first [semi]-vintage nib, and was also my first pen with a gold nib); a pen/pencil set in what appears to be the original box (an estate sale find a while back); and now this one.  

I may end up swapping the nib with that on one of the other 45s in the stash.....

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[dimledger]

Here's my latest toy, a Parker 21 purchased off of eBay at what I think was a very decent price.

 

 

 

It even came with a sticker from what I assume was the original place of purchase.

 

 

Now I just have to finish the exciting process of cleaning out decades old ink and I'll have a nice writer.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 30, 2022 by dimledger

[IThinkIHaveAProblem]

2 hours ago, dimledger said:

Here's my latest toy, a Parker 21 purchased off of eBay at what I think was a very decent price.

 

 

 

It even came with a sticker from what I assume was the original place of purchase.

 

 

Now I just have to finish the exciting process of cleaning out decades old ink and I'll have a nice writer.

 

 

 

 

 

I’d fill it with clean water (two squeeses of the bladder) and let it sit overnight 

 

then use the reconstituted ink to write with

 

especially since its likely the only fill the pen has ever had!

 

(i do this with all my purchases now, it can be fun)

 

 congrats btw on the nice clean pen

[dimledger]

56 minutes ago, IThinkIHaveAProblem said:

I’d fill it with clean water (two squeeses of the bladder) and let it sit overnight 

 

then use the reconstituted ink to write with

 

 

I'll be sure to give that a try.

 

Thanks!

[inkstainedruth]

1 hour ago, IThinkIHaveAProblem said:

I’d fill it with clean water (two squeeses of the bladder) and let it sit overnight 

 

then use the reconstituted ink to write with

 

especially since its likely the only fill the pen has ever had!

 

(i do this with all my purchases now, it can be fun)

 

 congrats btw on the nice clean pen

I did that with the 21 I bought a few weeks ago at an estate sale.  Dunno what the ink was (some sort of now diluted blue or blue black, but not a teal-leaning blue black).  

But it reminded me of back when I bought my first 21 (which sadly got cracking in the hood), and how well that pen wrote, and was going "if this pen is THIS nice, just IMAGINE what writing with a 51 will be like...."

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[Number99]

4 hours ago, dimledger said:

Here's my latest toy, a Parker 21 purchased off of eBay at what I think was a very decent price.

 

 

 

It even came with a sticker from what I assume was the original place of purchase.

 

 

Now I just have to finish the exciting process of cleaning out decades old ink and I'll have a nice writer.

 

 

 

 

 

Hello.

 

I'm not familiar with the Parker 21, but this is the first time I've seen a Parker 21 with this type of clip.

 Parker pens.net states that imprint clips were sold at Parker21 super for a short period of time.

 Does this pen work for that?

 I don't even know if this pen is 21 super…

 

[dimledger]

1 hour ago, Number99 said:

Hello.

 

I'm not familiar with the Parker 21, but this is the first time I've seen a Parker 21 with this type of clip.

 Parker pens.net states that imprint clips were sold at Parker21 super for a short period of time.

 Does this pen work for that?

 I don't even know if this pen is 21 super…

 

 

I'm afraid that I don't know enough about Parker pens to comment one way or the other.

 

I will say, though, that the clip on mine does look like the one in this old listing on Peyton Street Pens.