Conid News - Update

[dms525]

3 hours ago, mauckcg said:

I would imagine titanium will stick around as a standard.  Any non standard grinds I would want to do would be with either gold or steel due to how soft the Conid Ti nibs are.

 

I agree. I have 3 Bock nibs from Conid - one each in gold, steel, and titanium. All were ground to cursive italic for me by Conid. The gold and steel nibs are excellent. The Titanium is rather unsatisfactory. It is soft without being springy. I can't really see it as optimal for any style of writing.

 

David

[sketchstack]

5 hours ago, Karmachanic said:

 

Yes, Bock nibs are easy to come by.  Conid design nibs not so much.  Might be just my imagination, but Conid Ti nibs feel softer to me than the standard Bock Ti nib.

 

I'm disappointed that so far at least it doesn't look like gold #8 nibs will be offered. Perhaps that's a premature conclusion. I am not a fan of the titanium #8 nibs after having dealt with quite a few of them. The quality control is all over the place. Some are squishy, some are nails, some EF write like broad and some broad write like ...triple-broad. Etc. And I hate that Bock can't be troubled to stamp the width on the nib itself. 

 

I actually prefer the new steel #8 coming from Magna Carta over the Bock Ti #8. 

[oldrifleman]

I on the other hand will not own a steel nib that I cannot get a suitable replacement for. I have never found them to my liking so they get replaced with gold or titanium before first filling.

[es9]

Something just hit me: If we can’t buy spare nib units, then wouldn’t CAISO mean you’re stuck with the stock nib? I guess you could mount a different Bock nib on the feed, but that would involve knocking everything apart each time you want a different nib…

[JungleJim]

Posted at Pen World's Instagram site:

 

"We are so proud to announce that we will be relaunching the famous Conid Bulkfillers. Conid will continue producing the Bulkfillers and Penworld will do sales en support for these amazing pens. The first batch of Conidpens will be the AntwerPPen that will be available again starting October 25th. And before the end of the year another model will be in stock! "

[velox brunneis vulpes]

Only titanium nibs are available for the latest Conids being sold through Penworld 🤨

And the nibs add €235 to the cost of the pen! 

€235 for a nib!

To quote Luke Skywalker in Star Wars: A New Hope, "We could almost buy our own ship for that!" 😳

[Karmachanic]

One bad decision after another.  £128 from Beaufort. 

[velox brunneis vulpes]

4 hours ago, Karmachanic said:

One bad decision after another.  £128 from Beaufort. 

Luckily I didn't make that bad decision then! 😁

 

I was just testing the purchase option ☺️

 

Karmachanic, thanks for the Beaufort link 🙂 What was my previous bad decision? 🤔

[fountainbel]

Hi All,

The cost for the Size 8 nib units may look high, but please note the following:

1-Contrary to the origin Bock nib units the feeds equipped with an axial teeth which radially locks in a slot provided in the bottom of the nib housing;

Doing so the nib & feed will can't slip radially when the nib unit axially backs-up against its Oring seal.

2- There are 2 different housings, one dedicated for the Titanium nibs nibs an another one for the 14K nibs.

3- All nibs are individually fine-tuned with a writing example by the Conid nib specialist.

Hope this helps,

Francis

[TitoThePencilPimp]

Appears to be a cash grab at this point. Will not support this company. 

[es9]

55 minutes ago, fountainbel said:

Hi All,

The cost for the Size 8 nib units may look high, but please note the following:

1-Contrary to the origin Bock nib units the feeds equipped with an axial teeth which radially locks in a slot provided in the bottom of the nib housing;

Doing so the nib & feed will can't slip radially when the nib unit axially backs-up against its Oring seal.

2- There are 2 different housings, one dedicated for the Titanium nibs nibs an another one for the 14K nibs.

3- All nibs are individually fine-tuned with a writing example by the Conid nib specialist.

Hope this helps,

Francis

Thanks, Francis. But if titanium is the only option, and the housing is special, then how can we use gold nibs? Also, if spare feeds/housings will not be sold, how can we use a gold nib on a pen with CAISO? 

[Karmachanic]

2 hours ago, es9 said:

how can we use gold nibs?

 

Easy peasy.  Buy a pen with a gold nib and pertinent feed/housing,  and a pen with a Ti nib with approriate feed/housing.  And if you want both an M and CI nibs for both pens, uuhhh, buy two more pens! 🤪

[es9]

Conid is not selling spare CAISO-compatible feeds; I asked. And apparently the housing that comes with the titanium nib — the only nib available — is different than the one for a gold nib. 

[Doug C]

I have a couple of Conids, love them, and when I bought them the customer service was great.

I would give them a little while to sort out what works and what doesn't. 

Just my opinion. 

[Karmachanic]

One pen and several nibs is no longer allowed.

[fountainbel]

Hi all,

Conid decided to make dedicated nib housings for titanium and gold nibs because the titanium nibs are 0.07mm thicker compared to the gold nibs .

This made fixation of the gold nibs borderline , with the risk the nib would slightly pivot during writing.

FYI ,Attached a picture showing the Conid "Bock style" nib units on which the feeds are equipped with an axial teeth which radially locks in a slot provided in the bottom of the nib housing. Given the axial pretension on the housing when compressing the O ring behind the housing, the nib and feed easily slip, which is now prevented with the radial locking teeth 

Francis

 

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/h89/fountainbel/IMG_2932.webp

[oldrifleman]

Actually I would only buy the Titanium. That said I would love to buy a new Conid, that is if I can find one available. Looking forward to getting a red regular (want another one) as well as a red kingsize (as well as a Kingsize Demonstrator). As for the cost of a nib they could have hid it by just raising the base price of the pen, Hand ground nib units are not cheap (just bought a #8 flex gold for a wonderful new pen that cost me more than what CONID is charging). Just glad to see them back at it💖. Take my Money, Please😁

 

[Karmachanic]

42 minutes ago, oldrifleman said:

Hand ground nib units are not cheap

 

Hand ground will have to come from a third party.

[SpecTP]

I've had very good experience with Conid's Ti Bock #8 nib on my Kingsize bulkfiller with CAISO. I really liked the performance. Unfortunately, I damaged it and I opted to replace it with a gold nib. The gold nib doesn't have the same snap back feel of the Ti nib. It's decent, but if I were to do it again, I'd have ordered another Ti nib.

[es9]

6 hours ago, fountainbel said:

Hi all,

Conid decided to make dedicated nib housings for titanium and gold nibs because the titanium nibs are 0.07mm thicker compared to the gold nibs .

This made fixation of the gold nibs borderline , with the risk the nib would slightly pivot during writing.

FYI ,Attached a picture showing the Conid "Bock style" nib units on which the feeds are equipped with an axial teeth which radially locks in a slot provided in the bottom of the nib housing. Given the axial pretension on the housing when compressing the O ring behind the housing, the nib and feed easily slip, which is now prevented with the radial locking teeth 

Francis

 

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/h89/fountainbel/IMG_2932.webp

Thanks for sharing that background, Francis. But I am still wondering about how things will work in practice. I have been eagerly looking forward to buying a kingsize with CAISO and a gold nib. If it only comes with a titanium nib — and if additional nib units/parts are not sold separately — how can I use a gold nib? Even if I bought a separate bock nib unit, I wouldn’t be able to use it because it wouldn’t have a feed compatible with CAISO. And it sounds like I could not safely just install a gold bock nib in the housing that came with pen.