Ink T O D - Show Us Your Murky Inks

[Intensity]

Very interesting, it seems like the average consensus for "murky" is a swampy brown-green type of color. I consider any "dirty" color murky myself. For instance my mix of Noodler's Dostoyevsky with GvFC Stone Grey and some distilled water is a very murky turquoise (=dirty, faded looking vintage turquoise--perfection for me).

[Karmachanic]

Very interesting, it seems like the average consensus for "murky" is a swampy brown-green type of color. I consider any "dirty" color murky myself. For instance my mix of Noodler's Dostoyevsky with GvFC Stone Grey and some distilled water is a very murky turquoise (=dirty, faded looking vintage turquoise--perfection for me).

 

Let's see it!

[Tas]

Very interesting, it seems like the average consensus for "murky" is a swampy brown-green type of color. I consider any "dirty" color murky myself. For instance my mix of Noodler's Dostoyevsky with GvFC Stone Grey and some distilled water is a very murky turquoise (=dirty, faded looking vintage turquoise--perfection for me).

I classify these colours (if I'm right about the colour you describe) as "chalky" inks and they make up most of my daily use. Soft, gentle on the eye, un-saturated, vintage-looking - Gris de Payne, Earl Grey, Vert de Gris that kind of thing?

 

 

Let's see it!

Yes, please!

[Karmachanic]

I classify these colours (if I'm right about the colour you describe) as "chalky" inks and they make up most of my daily use. Soft, gentle on the eye, un-saturated, vintage-looking - Gris de Payne, Earl Grey, Vert de Gris that kind of thing?

 

Yes, please!

 

Chalky, unsaturated and vintage looking? Oooh yes. Unsaturated and vintage looking murkyosities would be lovely too. :)

[Intensity]

Chalky to me is pastel, which is like a translucent ink mixed with white pigment. Murky is like a translucent pure color ink mixed with earthy, dirty water like mixed inks in a water glass where a brush was cleaned from various watercolor. A color can be both pastel and dirty looking. Pure baby blue is pastel, put some food and dirt stains on it and wash it a bunch in bad detergent = murky pastel

[Sailor Kenshin]

Moonstones and Illusions. More to come.

 

 

Brown? Gray?

 

Monteverde Moonstone is one of my favorite what-is-it colors, smooth and well-mannered, with a fascinating chroma. It's also been named as a possible dupe for Montblanc Swan Plume Illusion. Aquired a sample of the MB, and tested them both.

 

MV Moonstone Ink test

 

http://extras.ourpatioparty.com/files/3815/7152/4799/Monteverde__Moonstone-640p.jpg

 

MV Chroma

 

 

http://extras.ourpatioparty.com/files/2315/7152/4798/Monteverde__Moonstone_Chroma-640p.jpg

 

 

Montblanc Swan Plume Illusion ink test

 

 

http://extras.ourpatioparty.com/files/9715/7152/4798/Montblanc_Swan-640p.jpg

 

 

MB SPI chroma

 

http://extras.ourpatioparty.com/files/1115/7152/4797/Montblanc_Swan_Chroma-640p.jpg

 

 

The MB ink seems to flow well enough...but this is my only outing with it so far. It seems a bit less lubricated than MV Moonstone, which may resolve itself in a different pen.

[Sailor Kenshin]

Also tried painting some free-form mini landscapes with Moonstone. I think you can just see a little bit of the turquoise coming out. (Top image is probably Quink Black).

 

http://extras.ourpatioparty.com/files/8615/7956/4526/Freeform_Landscapes-MB_MV-640p.jpg

[Sailor Kenshin]

And again, different pen and Rhodia Ice grid paper. It just looks dark brown coming out of the pen, but really it's greenbrownturquoise.

 

Shot, appropriately, on a murky day.

 

 

http://extras.ourpatioparty.com/files/5215/8593/1120/MV_Moonstone_Test-640p.jpg

[pgcauk]

I am interested in Intensity`s question.

I was going to put forward Noodler`s Nightshade as a murky purple, as that's a purplish brown. I have plenty of Purple Greys, but I don't consider those murky at all. Neither green greys so I'm taking murky as being something with earth added?

Are warm browns murky? I once made a rainbow of browns, red,orange and yellow with its feet in purple and green (and a rainbow of greys for the other half of the circle). I don't find the warm browns to be murky, as this seems a natural place for them to go, so I'm tentatively going for murky as a cool color mixed with brown?

. . . . but if others have better ideas I'd love to hear them!

 

(Speculation, could a warm color be made murky by mixing it with grey?)

[Karmachanic]

For your consideration.

 

Murky;

Merriam Webster: : characterized by a heavy dimness or obscurity caused by or like that caused by overhanging fog or smoke

Cambridge: dark and dirty or difficult to see through.

MacMillan: dark and difficult to see through, especially because of bad light, thick cloud, or dirt in the air or water.

 

Could a warm colour/green/purple be dim/dark/dirty? I believe so. Dim/dark/dirty isn't necessarily brown.

[Sailor Kenshin]

I may count Lamy Petrol.

 

http://extras.ourpatioparty.com/files/6315/7686/3759/Lamy_Petrol-640p.jpg

 

Except that when wet (as if in a watercolor painting) it shows a turquoise halo.

 

http://extras.ourpatioparty.com/files/3615/7991/4145/Abstract_Landscapes-640p.jpg

 

Purple grays seem murky to me: Sailor Shigure, JH Poussiere de Lune.

[pgcauk]

- but aren't blues "stormy"?
Either we need to get the title for this thread changed to "murky greens", agree a definition, or allow people to bring what they will?
Here are some "greyed out" inks. I'm not sure I consider them "murky" though (well, maybe the last one?) - do you?

Edited April 7, 2020 by pgcauk

[Sailor Kenshin]

The first and last look murky to me.

[pgcauk]

Here's my Grey and Brown Rainbows (from a few years back) - which are Murky?

[Sailor Kenshin]

The one farthest left, certainly. And farthest right. But maybe that's just me.

[Tas]

Here's my Grey and Brown Rainbows (from a few years back) - which are Murky?

This is art. Love it.

 

 

Edited April 8, 2020 by Tas

[VivaTerlingua]

I dunno what they are considered but they are all lovely colors

[KaB]

Errrmm. On my calibrated screen Salamander is green and Rikyu-cha brown(ish). You definitely need both!

 

Oh you naughty provider

[DrScholl]

I should never have entered this topic, this is a den of temptation.

Interesting to note that even you native speakers have some troubles defining murky

Since Rickyu-cha seems to qualify for murky, here's a quick comparison between Sailor Rickyu-sha and DeAtramentis Marone (the new), scans are not terrific but well...

 

http://lezardblues.free.fr/stylos/Autres_couleurs/Rickyu1.jpg

http://lezardblues.free.fr/stylos/Autres_couleurs/Rickyu2.jpg


http://lezardblues.free.fr/stylos/Autres_couleurs/Marone2.jpg

 

 

[Tas]

Ooo, deffo murky.