Parker 51 Comeback 2020?

[jann3]

Something in the new Parker 51 is bothering me. I'm wondering, how much the Parker company actually has to do with this product. Is it really designed and produced by them, or has Parker just licensed the brand to someone else.

 

I have a hunch that there might be some retailer, distributor or a group of them, behind the product. Perhaps they have just acquired the rights to the old model and the brand name. It would explain the weird silence of the Parker Pen Company. Well, who knows, just my thoughts...

[Ferocity]

17 hours ago, corniche said:

 

I baby my pens, too, Ferocity.

 

I like sets, but I always try to keep them an inch apart in a breast pocket; i.e., I never put them in a pant pocket or a backpack or the like.

 

And when their not in use, I keep them in little flocked drawers with flocked pen trays in them. Those scratches and rub marks peeve me, too.

 

BTW, quite on topic, that's what bothers me about the clutch caps on the original 51 - the rub marks they make on the section. 

 

- Sean  

 

Hahaaa yeah I'm the same way when i put them away = )

 

The rub marks from the slip caps ~!  I try to keep the inside of all my caps as clean as possible, but even so THE SCRATCH MARKS FROM POSTING ARE UNAVOIDABLE(well unless you don't post the caps but that robs you of The Full experience... Gotta post it brother). I heard somewhere that these caps for the Parker 51 and for the Parker 21 were designed so that when they posted, they didn't scratch up the pen's body barrel... well... I always knew it did... How couldn't it? it's metal on plastic. doesn't matter how smooth it is; friction is friction. PLUS if there was any lint or any little pieces of dirt SCRATCHES are guaranteed. I think the only pen I have that can post properly and not scratch the barrel is the Rotring Initial (and that thing doesn't post securely UNLESS YOU MAN HANDLE IT). Microscratches from posting... it bothers me hahahaha

 

 

[Ferocity]

SO

just to be clear

that date code that they have

it's for 2020 riiiiiiiiiight?

[ele]

13 hours ago, jann3 said:

Something in the new Parker 51 is bothering me. I'm wondering, how much the Parker company actually has to do with this product. Is it really designed and produced by them, or has Parker just licensed the brand to someone else.

 

I have a hunch that there might be some retailer, distributor or a group of them, behind the product. Perhaps they have just acquired the rights to the old model and the brand name. It would explain the weird silence of the Parker Pen Company. Well, who knows, just my thoughts...

I agree--it seem fishy. No one seems to have any other ideas about their silence....

[encremental]

Sounds like a QuinkAnon conspiracy theory to me .....

 

John

[crescentfiller]

On 2/13/2021 at 4:02 PM, FarmBoy said:

Glenn

 

My 1964  Plymouth Valiant weighs in at 2900 lbs and didn't have seatbelts.  When I bought my 2018 Toyota Prius it came with free seatbelts.  I now think Plymouth ripped me off and that is why they went out of business.  Neither of them came with an ink cartridge.

 

 

Compared to the 64 Valiant, how does the 18 Prius write?

 

Much flex?

 

Please post writing samples!

[lionelc]

1 hour ago, crescentfiller said:

Compared to the 64 Valiant, how does the 18 Prius write?

heh ... satire

[catbert]

3 hours ago, ele said:

I agree--it seem fishy. No one seems to have any other ideas about their silence....

 

Someone asked Parker and was told website updates are coming in early March.

[inkstainedruth]

Maybe they're being hesitant to post anything, after general reception of the Parker 5th....

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[corniche]

21 hours ago, jann3 said:

Something in the new Parker 51 is bothering me. I'm wondering, how much the Parker company actually has to do with this product. Is it really designed and produced by them, or has Parker just licensed the brand to someone else.

 

I have a hunch that there might be some retailer, distributor or a group of them, behind the product. Perhaps they have just acquired the rights to the old model and the brand name. It would explain the weird silence of the Parker Pen Company. Well, who knows, just my thoughts...

 

Hi Jann3,

 

Idk. But my pen has, "FRANCE  Q.III" stamped on the reverse of the cap band.

 

That sounds like a genuine article to me. If you ask me, I think Parker is keeping mum until they have enough of them made that they can meet the (possible) demand. Right now, they have only a very small number made.

 

- Sean 

[corniche]

19 hours ago, Ferocity said:

SO

just to be clear

that date code that they have

it's for 2020 riiiiiiiiiight?

 

Dont ask me, I have an easier time doing algebra and calculus than figuring out Parker's date codes.

 

- Sean 

[FarmBoy]

7 hours ago, crescentfiller said:

 

 

Compared to the 64 Valiant, how does the 18 Prius write?

 

Much flex?

 

Please post writing samples!

Anywhere above 66 mph and the Valiant flexes all over every available lane. The Prius gets peeved off if you get anywhere near the Braille markers and flashes messages at you ..

[corgicoupe]

All these new signals from new cars can be very confusing. I rented a B Class Mercedes Benz in Slovenia two years ago and it kept sending audible signals as we drove to Croatia. I stopped at a Mercedes dealer and inquired as to what these signals meant. The answer was: "I have no idea." So I decided to ignore them in ignorance for the next couple of weeks.

[jann3]

10 hours ago, encremental said:

Sounds like a QuinkAnon conspiracy theory to me .....

 

John

 

3 hours ago, corniche said:

 

Hi Jann3,

 

Idk. But my pen has, "FRANCE  Q.III" stamped on the reverse of the cap band.

 

That sounds like a genuine article to me. If you ask me, I think Parker is keeping mum until they have enough of them made that they can meet the (possible) demand. Right now, they have only a very small number made.

 

- Sean 

I'm confident that the product is legit and genuine, in technical and legal sense. So, I don't question the authenticity per se. I'm just speculating that the business model behind the product may differ from the usual product launches.  If an external licensee is an active player instead of the Parker Pen Company, one may ask, how much "Parker" is left in the product. That's the question that bothers me most.

[Jerome Tarshis]

How much Parker is left in the product is a question different people can be bothered by in different decades. I could easily begin asking it when the Sonnet appeared. If not sooner. Unlike many British users, I can't discern much Parker in the beloved 25. These things do depend upon when you started noticing.

[corniche]

1 hour ago, jann3 said:

 

I'm confident that the product is legit and genuine, in technical and legal sense. So, I don't question the authenticity per se. I'm just speculating that the business model behind the product may differ from the usual product launches.  If an external licensee is an active player instead of the Parker Pen Company, one may ask, how much "Parker" is left in the product. That's the question that bothers me most.

 

Hi Jann3,

 

Well, I dont work for Parker, so I cannot say anything with authority- only speculation  - like everyone else here... but... I think it may be as I said, they're keeping their mouth shut until they have made enough to meet the speculated demand.

 

I also pre-ordered a Midnight blue one and a plum Deluxe,  but all that I have received is the teal. I don't think Parker wants to do a full splash advertising campaign until they've got a decent inventory. 

 

It goes over badly if you widely trumpet a product you barely have on hand. I've examined my teal 51 and the pen and the packaging look like my other Parker products.

 

Its marked France and has a date code. I dont think a "satellite manufacturer" could pull that off without it bringing lawsuits.

 

If you're asking how much of the pen is made in France - who can say. There was a time when iron ore, silica, rubber trees and leather went in one end of the River Rouge Plant and a Model T/A came out the other end. Unfortunately, those days are long gone for almost all manufacturers. Most finished goods have some degree of "shopped out" components. 

 

If I'm missing your point/question, then please be more specific - exactly, what do you think the problem is?

 

- Sean 

[peroride]

5 hours ago, corniche said:

I have an easier time doing algebra and calculus than figuring out Parker's date codes.

 

Me too, I had a hard time figuring this out😵 but for those following at home...

 

Q.III was a secret code for genuine Parker Pens made with real Q-U-A-L-I-T-Y every 10 years since 1980.

 

To whit, after an mRNA reverse transcriptase is applied with quantum annealing to the Julia calculator, the Red Dawn Phoenix lays the correct cream buffered colored egg signifying correct astrological alignment for the French engineers to ascribe the dozenal Masonic derived ordering.

 

Thus the authentic relaunch pens were made in the time of the pandemic July-Sept 2020 🗿

[Heinkle]

10 hours ago, catbert said:

 

Someone asked Parker and was told website updates are coming in early March.

 

Good find!

[vicpen123]

2 hours ago, peroride said:

 

To whit, after an mRNA reverse transcriptase is applied with quantum annealing to the Julia calculator, the Red Dawn Phoenix lays the correct cream buffered colored egg signifying correct astrological alignment for the French engineers to ascribe the dozenal Masonic derived ordering.

Was it not the Julie calculator? A Julia calculator leads to a green coloured egg and the scoreal ordering.

[Ferocity]

6 hours ago, peroride said:

 

Me too, I had a hard time figuring this out😵 but for those following at home...

 

Q.III was a secret code for genuine Parker Pens made with real Q-U-A-L-I-T-Y every 10 years since 1980.

 

To whit, after an mRNA reverse transcriptase is applied with quantum annealing to the Julia calculator, the Red Dawn Phoenix lays the correct cream buffered colored egg signifying correct astrological alignment for the French engineers to ascribe the dozenal Masonic derived ordering.

 

Thus the authentic relaunch pens were made in the time of the pandemic July-Sept 2020 🗿

i like your math 👍

SCIENCE~!

 

12 hours ago, corniche said:

 

Dont ask me, I have an easier time doing algebra and calculus than figuring out Parker's date codes.

 

- Sean 

hahahaha for me that is true in regards to the newer date codes, but I think I can figure out the old ones with a few exceptions