Parker 51 Comeback 2020?

[ZeroDukE]

3 hours ago, Estycollector said:

This AM I compared the two 1942 51's with a Flighter WS 601. I terms of scratchiness, all about the same. The 42's seem a little more medium or laid down more ink. My point is that there is not a lot of difference on the same two  paper type I have on the desk this morning. 

 

I've carried the WS for a couple of months beside a P45 ballpoint. I see nothing that tells me this pens metal is going to not age well. 

 

I think if Parker had reintroduced a repackaged WS Flighter 601 it would have been a hit with new and old FP users. 

It looks very nice!

[ZeroDukE]

2 hours ago, Estycollector said:

 

 

There is available, BTW, a metal section. I am not interested since the original Parker Flighter was black plastic. 

 

 

Hi,

Do you know who sells the metal section?  I saw that in a video and found it perfect for that pen.

[Aysedasi]

3 hours ago, corniche said:

 

Hi Aysedasi,

 

I know; that pains me, too. I would have loved a fine/medium stub offering; something akin to Esterbrook's Journaling nib by Gena.

 

But being a large conglomerate; they're going with the textbook conglomerate nib choices.

 

- Sean

 

Yes, sadly so Sean.  I'll be interested to know how 'wide' the medium turns out to be, I suspect not as wide as British medium P51 nibs usually are.  It's a real sticking point for me.  If there was just an ordinary broad, I might well pull the trigger on a steel nibbed offering, out of curiosity, but an oblique or stub would be even better.  I'm not going to hold my breath though.  It's like trying to find a broad nib for my Cross Peerless, if you're not Mr or Mrs 'enforced average', it's just not worth them making different nibs it seems.  

[Estycollector]

9 minutes ago, zeroduke said:

Hi,

Do you know who sells the metal section?  I saw that in a video and found it perfect for that pen.

1Pc Steel Grip For Wing Sung 601 Hooded Nib Fountain Pen Ink | Etsy

[Aysedasi]

11 minutes ago, zeroduke said:

Hi,

Do you know who sells the metal section?  I saw that in a video and found it perfect for that pen.

 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1Pc-Steel-Grip-For-Wing-Sung-601-Hooded-Nib-Fountain-Pen-Ink-Pen-Stationery/233769556808?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

[Paganini]

20 minutes ago, Aysedasi said:

 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1Pc-Steel-Grip-For-Wing-Sung-601-Hooded-Nib-Fountain-Pen-Ink-Pen-Stationery/233769556808?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

 

Just to close this loop:

 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001671609956.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.745a12daYITKu0&algo_pvid=f969411d-2c94-44dd-81f1-863b14844001&algo_expid=f969411d-2c94-44dd-81f1-863b14844001-35&btsid=0b0a556a16126292844076984e40cb&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

 

These are all Bobby stores, but sometimes the price / shipping options are slightly different between the services. 

[Aysedasi]

I bought the  pen and the section (despite the fact that I don't like fine nibs or metal sections!).  It's actually a nice pen, seems well made.  Another of my 'curiosity' purchases.  

[ZeroDukE]

1 hour ago, Estycollector said:

1Pc Steel Grip For Wing Sung 601 Hooded Nib Fountain Pen Ink | Etsy

Thank you!

[ZeroDukE]

1 hour ago, Aysedasi said:

 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1Pc-Steel-Grip-For-Wing-Sung-601-Hooded-Nib-Fountain-Pen-Ink-Pen-Stationery/233769556808?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Thank you!

[Paganini]

2 hours ago, Aysedasi said:

I bought the  pen and the section (despite the fact that I don't like fine nibs or metal sections!).  It's actually a nice pen, seems well made.  Another of my 'curiosity' purchases.  

 

I did the same, although in my case it was "this looks like an interesting filing system, even though I hate hooded nibs." Now it's one of my favorite pens, and I have hooded nibs all over the place.

 

 

[corgicoupe]

13 hours ago, shostakovich said:

 and the c/c is an extra cost.

Am I correct in assuming that the converter for the modern Duofold will fit the new 51? I think they are about $10; I had to buy one for an Aurora Ipsilon that came without a converter. It should have been included, though.

[corniche]

5 minutes ago, corgicoupe said:

Am I correct in assuming that the converter for the modern Duofold will fit the new 51?

 

Hi Corgi,

 

Yes. I would think so. IIRC, the old slide converters should fit, too. (I've got dozens of those from 45s).

 

- Sean 

[NumberSix]

23 hours ago, corniche said:

Hi all,

 

The release should be in short order now; Pen Chalet released this video today:

 

https://www.penchalet.com/fine_pens/fountain_pens/parker_51__fountain_pens.html

 

 

- Sean  

 

Excellent! I have a black steel nib Medium on order from Pen Chalet, so hopefully it means they will be shipping soon. I have an extra Parker twist converter waiting and ready to load up some Platinum Blue-Black or Diamine Blue-Black (probably). 

 

That video makes the teal one look awfully nice, though. 

[pajaro]

The new 51 in the Fahrney's catalog looks like the Sonnets and I imagine the slide converter would work.  The Parkers look pretty similar. 

 

[Aysedasi]

I thought that all Parker convertors were a universal fit for all their pens?    

[corniche]

1 hour ago, Aysedasi said:

I thought that all Parker convertors were a universal fit for all their pens?    

 

That has been my experience as well.

 

- Sean  

[TheRedBeard]

4 hours ago, Aysedasi said:

I thought that all Parker convertors were a universal fit for all their pens?    

That's correct as, as far a Is remember, it was Parker's policy, when they eventually introduced converters, to make them all compatible for all Parker pens onwards.

While different Parker converters can differ on design features or quality they are all interchangeable.

[hari317]

5 hours ago, Aysedasi said:

I thought that all Parker convertors were a universal fit for all their pens?    

For Currently produced converters probably yes. History they had the squeeze type in slim and fat. The fat ones fit the 45, 75 etc but not the slim pens like the 180. But the fatter ones held more ink. My favourites. 

[Aysedasi]

Yep, understood hari. 

[corniche]

17 hours ago, NumberSix said:

 

Excellent! I have a black steel nib Medium on order from Pen Chalet, so hopefully it means they will be shipping soon. I have an extra Parker twist converter waiting and ready to load up some Platinum Blue-Black or Diamine Blue-Black (probably). 

 

That video makes the teal one look awfully nice, though. 

 

Hi #6,

 

I know.

 

I took the teal because I've always loved aqua/teal colors and I have a Jotter I got in the '70s that's the same color - or really close.

 

Now, I'm sitting here wondering if I should get a Midnight Blue one, too - or just forget all my inhibitions and get a Plum Deluxe set. 🤠🥳💥

 

Maybe the Deluxe will include a converter. 

 

- Sean