Parker 51 Comeback 2020?

[remus1710]

So i read on the TFPN facebook page that the parker 51 will come back in the second part of this year? What are your thoughts?

[Beechwood]

I would bet against that happening.

[Joane]

If they do my guess is it would likely be a cartridge-convertor like the 100 they came out with about 15 years ago.

[GardenWeasel]

I’d be excited if a true Parker 51 was introduced. One as reliable as the original. And rolled gold caps. Happy thoughts!

[JordanN]

Parker has already confirmed it. https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/350612-parker-cloning-itself/

[Estycollector]

Oh no, a rebranded Wing Sung 601 pre 2019 model....LOL!!

[remus1710]

Those clips are just ugly.... the pen looks very cheap... i hope they won t look like that...

Parker has already confirmed it. https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/350612-parker-cloning-itself/

[inkstainedruth]

Oh no, a rebranded Wing Sung 601 pre 2019 model....LOL!!

 

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[Freddy]

Those clips are just ugly.... the pen looks very cheap... i hope they won t look like that...

 

Hope springs eternal..

 

 

Fred

in the human breast....Alex Pope

[Mr.Rene]

It is not necessary ...there are several original Parker 51 in the market...Why I will buy a kind of replica...

[jchch1950]

I would bet against that happening.

Why?Old fashion pens,copies available ?

[thx1138]

^{The parker 100 was an excellent pen in it's own right,}

^{I have a number of the FP's, BP's, and RB's and they are all beautifully made and work perfectly}

^{A new 51 would be interesting though..}

[Beechwood]

Why?Old fashion pens,copies available ?

 

 

I actually do not understand the question you are asking but I assume that you are asking why do I think it unlikely that Parker is to bring back the Parker 51.

 

Parker made a Special Edition 51 in 2002 which was a commercial disaster. 'Bringing back the 51' to me would mean following the original design and making the pen out of Lucite, I really cannot see that happening.

 

Nor, frankly, can I see a rebranding by Parker of a chinese made clone of a Parker 51, this sounds crazy.

[remus1710]

I actually do not understand the question you are asking but I assume that you are asking why do I think it unlikely that Parker is to bring back the Parker 51.

 

Parker made a Special Edition 51 in 2002 which was a commercial disaster. 'Bringing back the 51' to me would mean following the original design and making the pen out of Lucite, I really cannot see that happening.

 

Nor, frankly, can I see a rebranding by Parker of a chinese made clone of a Parker 51, this sounds crazy.

i agree with you... but the images that leaked for me were just that a rebranding of chinese clone witch for me is sad... really sad... the price for 2002 version was a deal braker for the quality

Edited January 5, 2020 by remus1710

[Lam1]

What a shame.

 

I believe that a well made homage to the P51, that reproduces the design but with quality modern materials (it could be CC), would have demand among collectors. I know I would consider it. Many brands that have iconic pens do this successfully - look at Pelikan M101N, MB Heritage collection, etc.

 

A cheaply made copy will probably attract no one, after all, if I wanted a cheap copy they are readily available for (likely) much less than Parker will charge.

 

By the way, the hood profile of one of those pens is similar to the (Arghh!) 21, not the 51.

[remus1710]

What a shame.

 

I believe that a well made homage to the P51, that reproduces the design but with quality modern materials (it could be CC), would have demand among collectors. I know I would consider it. Many brands that have iconic pens do this successfully - look at Pelikan M101N, MB Heritage collection, etc.

 

A cheaply made copy will probably attract no one, after all, if I wanted a cheap copy they are readily available for (likely) much less than Parker will charge.

 

By the way, the hood profile of one of those pens is similar to the (Arghh!) 21, not the 51.

TOTALLY AGREE!!

[Colourfingers]

They will have neither the tooling, nor the machinery, nor the skills in their workforce in this day and age to faithfully reproduce the 51's of old. At least in my opinion if it's worth anything, also Parker is no longer Parker and hasn't been for quite some time.

[Freddy]

 

Hope springs eternal..

 

 

Fred

in the human breast....Alex Pope

 

Additionally.................................................

Much Ado About Nothing

 

Fred

The blaze in my neighbour's hayrick warms the tea in my samovor

 

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[FarmBoy]

They will have neither the tooling, nor the machinery, nor the skills in their workforce in this day and age to faithfully reproduce the 51's of old. At least in my opinion if it's worth anything, also Parker is no longer Parker and hasn't been for quite some time.

All the machinery and necessary skills are available today to produce the "51" in both the vac and aero filled versions. The issue will be cost of production and you would want to ask Why? At any given time there are 1000s of 51s for sale at very affordable prices and there doesn't seem to be masses flocking to buy them.

 

Lets call it a 51 descendant and note that to be popular today it would need to be a cartridge/converter filled pen at a minimum and more likely a piston filled pen. Not to mention everyone would insist on a massive ink capacity and then they would complain about how the collector is difficult to clean.

[Estycollector]

They will have neither the tooling, nor the machinery, nor the skills in their workforce in this day and age to faithfully reproduce the 51's of old. At least in my opinion if it's worth anything, also Parker is no longer Parker and hasn't been for quite some time.

 

At one time your sentiments echoed those who said Martin Guitar Company lacked the factory workers necessary to reproduce the pre war or pre 1940 instruments that had gained such a following. Some even suggested the knowledge had died with the former builders. Nothing could have been further from the truth.

 

Today there are members here who have studied these pens who also are machinists and skilled craftspeople capable of replicating anything the "51" market would demand.

 

In the case of Martin, they introduced this remake of their famed instruments, but added into the price the cost of future warrantee repairs that come with a lightly built instrument. I see Parker doing something similar. The pen might be similar to the Wing Sung 601 and the nib might be propriety and fit only a Parker Wing Sung clone. The price will be reflective of the demand and any possible warrantee claims.