Lamy 2000 vs. Studio nib

[blak000]

To any of you who might happen to own a Lamy Studio and Lamy 2000:

 

I have a Lamy Studio in a fine nib. I'm thinking of getting a Lamy 2000 next week, based on all the extremely positive reviews on FPN about it.

 

A lot of people mentioned how the Lamy nibs run a little broad, but I happen to like the Lamy fine's thickness... it's perfect for me. I was just wondering if the 2000's fine is the same thickness as the Studio's. If it's a little wider, I might go with the EF, because I don't like "medium" nibs. I have a medium Vector and Sheaffer school pen, and it's just way too thick for me.

 

Also, for those who DO have the EF, how is it? Can you make a comparison with the Fine nib?

 

Thanks.

[Shelley]

I understand that the 2000 nibs are wider than the other Lamy nibs, so you may want to go for the XF, if you can get into a store though that would be your best bet!

It is a good pen though - one of the best for under $100 in my opinion!

[blak000]

I understand that the 2000 nibs are wider than the other Lamy nibs, so you may want to go for the XF, if you can get into a store though that would be your best bet!

It is a good pen though - one of the best for under $100 in my opinion!

 

Where can you get it for under $100? Everywhere I've seen, it's in the $110-120 range.

[NeoTiger]

The Lamy 2000 nib is definitely different from the standard Lamy nib found in Safari and Studio. The 2000 nib is a hooded gold nib (plated with platinum or some white metal) and shows a good amount of springiness/flex. It will almost definitely be much wider than the Studio nib, especially if you write with moderate to high pressure.

 

I've seen the Lamy 2000 on sale for around $90-100, depends where you look. I'd suggest PenGallery.

[Pengrump]

Pam Braun has the Lamy 2000 for $94.88.

 

I have two Lamy Studio fps, both with steel nibs, one f and one m. I also have a Lamy 2000 with a medium nib that puts down twice as broad a line as the medium on my Studio.

[Shelley]

Yep - Pam Braun (no affiliation) has them and she gives great service too!

[Russ]

My Lamy 2000 XF writes a little narrower on the verticals than on the horizontals when using good paper. On cheaper paper the lines appear the same.

 

The 2000 has more flex than the Studio's nib, hands-down. And it's a piston filler. And it has that great Makrolon body. It's a winner.

 

If I had to sell all my pens but one, I would cry a lot but keep the Lamy 2000.

 

 

[blak000]

Thanks guys.... so based on shelley and neotiger's responses, it'd probably be best if I go with an extra fine.

 

Also, thank you Neotiger, for recommending Pengallery.com

They do indeed sell the Lamy 2000 for a good price.

 

So the extra fine has no toothiness to it? Sorry for all the questions... I'm a college student, and $100 is a lot of money for a pen on my budget. Still, if it's everything everyone on here makes it out to be... then it'll be worth it. I do a lot of writing, so the quality of the pen is very important to me.

 

I really enjoy using the Studio, but am extremely curious as to how "great" the 2000 really is. I've seen people describing it as an elite fountain pen, and it's one of the few that's realistically within my budget. It may not look as flashy as some other pens I've seen (heck, my Studio looks sleeker than the 2000), but I care more about function than form... and the 2000 seems like it really excels in that department.

[John Cullen]

HI

 

check out the search function. If I remember correctly there are some other comments you might find useful here regarding the studio vs the 2000. I do not own either so I can not comment. good luck, j

[J-san]

I own both Studio and 2000. In terms of value, I would say the Studio wins - you get a great workhorse pen for about $60. The XF steel-nib version is stiffer and finer than the XF 2000 nib, but doesn't feel as smooth. I prefer the heft of the Studio and its grippy texture over the 2000, but the 2000 has better aesthetics, in my opinion. It totally is an all-business pen that travels incognito. Like the rickety-looking old man who is really a martial arts master and can defeat thugs who are twice his weight.

 

The 2000's body is very light weight and posting the cap really doesn't change the balance much at all. Its light weight and smoothness allows for very nice swift writing that feels great. Also a college student, I take a great many pages of notes on a daily basis and having a pen that writes smoothly really helps take the boring-ness out of studying.

 

Unfortunately, the 2000 has a nib with a foot, making for wider horizontal strokes than vertical. That makes writing in the margins much harder. You can flip the 2000's nib over and you will get a very fine line, but it is scratchy. If you are daring, you can use a very fine grit knife sharpening rod or something similar to round the edges a little. I did that and now I can write with the normal line and flip it over for smaller writing.

 

The 2000 nib will have some tooth to it if you press down hard enough. I think just about any nib will get scratchy is you press with enough pressure. But, keep the writing pressure at a moderate level and you will find the 2000 to have a very smooth nib. However, I have heard stories of people getting "lemons" with scratchy or less-then-smooth nibs. If you are willing to spend the money, I think you will find the 2000 an excellent, must-have addition for anyone who likes Lamy pens.

[blak000]

Thanks a lot J-San, that really helps a lot.

 

*sigh* I keep thinking to myself, 'This pen should last you a good while.'

 

I already find myself looking at some Namiki VP's. Probably going to buy one of those in two weeks. *sigh*

 

Does the chase ever end???

[J-san]

Nope. Just give up fighting it - it just keeps haunting you. I also "obtained" a VP soon after buying a Studio. The VP fine nib is much finer than the Studio's and is very smooth. I highly recommend the VP.

[blak000]

Welp, I just ordered the Lamy 2000. I can't wait!!!

 

Now, just two more pens to get (so far)...

 

the Namiki VP and Falcon. The Falcon's semi-flex nib sounds intriguing, even though it might take some time to get used to. The VP... well, that's self-explanatory. I think I'm going to hold out until they release the Capless Decimo here in the U.S.

 

 

[blak000]

Well, I received my Lamy 2000 today from Pengallery.com

 

My impressions of the pen so far have been lukewarm...

First off, the tines were misaligned out of the box, so I had to do a little readjustment. I flushed the pen a few times, filled it up, and then took it to school today. It was a pretty bad experience: the pen had trouble starting up again every few seconds. It annoyed me, but I just bore with it until class ended. I got home, flossed the nib (ended up having to close it up a bit again, because the ink started flowing TOO copiously) and got the ink working fine.

 

Now that the pen is working perfectly, I have one more problem: I don't like the nib size. I appreciate everyone's advice on this thread, and I think they were on the money for the most part. The Lamy 2000 EF nib DOES write with a thickness similar to my Studio Fine nib. However, the iridium of the Lamy 2000 is MUCH smaller than the Studio's. In short, it feels like I'm writing with a nail. The pen has a lot of feedback... perhaps a little too much for me. I'm tempted to send it back to Lamy for a fine nib, but I'm not sure if that's the best idea.

 

As I mentioned in the beginning, I like the fine nib on my Lamy Studio, and I find the 2000's EF, though slightly thinner, is pretty close to where I want it. However, I don't know if I can deal with the nib... it's just too toothy. I know if I go a size bigger, though, the line might end up being too broad, and that doesn't exactly sound appealing either.

 

How much bigger is the Fine nib to the extra fine? Is it a huge difference? I keep coming across people mentioning how broad their 2000's nibs are, and it makes me nervous to think about it... especially since I LIKE the thickness of the 2000's EF, but I just don't feel that smoothness that the 2000 is so widely praised for.

 

Overall, it's not a bad pen. I like the weight of it, and the design is great. You truly have to see one in person to really appreciate its aesthetics. With the toothy nib, though, I feel like I paid $100 for a very nice rollerball (the Uniball Vision comes to mind)... and not a fountain pen.

Edited July 11, 2007 by blak000

[Shelley]

I think you may have gotten a bad one, my advice-pack it back up and send it back, do not tell them thst you played with the tines though...I know mine was absolutely perfect out of the box.

When you get your replacment though make sure you flush it with water plenty of times then fill it - also make sure you are using a good ink-I have heard that the lamy ink is made with the 2000 in mind, however since the MB and the Lamy ink is actually the same stuff you may want to take a grain of salt with that, then again a MB shop told me that MB ink is designed specifically for the MB...whatever I have MB ink in mine and it works very well, I would also use Lamy Blue which is my new favourite ink...but I digress: sorry about your problems, do not try and fix it yourself, send it back and ask that they send you a replacement straight away, but ask if they could please test the tines in the shop beforehand (I got Pam to do that for mine), then send you a pen that behaves like a real Lamy 2000 EF should, which is of course sweeeet!

[blak000]

Well. I don't know if the nib is necessarily "bad." I lined up the tines, and the pen doesn't have any more flow problems; it's starting up as it should. I feel like my issue stems mainly from the small iridium. The pen feels more toothy than my Studio, but the iridium also looks like it's half the that of the Studio's.

It doesn't feel scratchy at all, just a lot more feedback than I would like. I know I sound like a broken record, but that iridium is SMALL... so I'm not surprised about how the pen feels. I want to stress that I'm not saying the pen feels UNPLEASANT. I don't think there's anything seriously wrong with the way the pen is writing... just maybe a little more feedback than I would like.

 

I'm just wondering more if I should keep the pen as is, since it draws the line thickness that I like... or switch to a Fine, and hopefully get a smoother feeling nib, with the trade-off of a thicker line. My biggest concern is that the line will be close to a medium, which I find is too thick for my writing style.

 

As for the ink, I filled it up with Parker Quink when I went to school. After I fixed the flow problem, I filled it up with Pelikan Brilliant Black. I've read that a few people have been less than enthusiastic about the Lamy/MB ink (no offense to those of you who like it), so I tried to stay away from using it.

[John Cullen]

Just a general comment here. If a buyer adjusts a pen, he should not send it back as if he had not worked on it.

 

I think it woiuld be unfair for a a buyer to work on a pen and then return it as if it were new.

 

Sorry the Lamy is not working out so well. jc

 

 

 

 

[blak000]

lol.. no worries of that. after comparing the line thickness of the studio fine and the 2000 EF, I made the decision to keep the pen. I just don't think I could go thicker, and be happy with the pen. I can't handle medium sized nibs.

 

I AM going to work on the nib a little bit more, though. Ordered some micro-mesh 12000. I'm going to work on some cheaper pens first, but the end goal is definitely to smooth out my 2000. It's a perfectly fine pen, in my opinion... I think I'll enjoy it more once I smooth it out.

[Sqldosa]

I just received a Lamy 2000 medium nib yesterday from Goldspot. I did not wash it as some recommended and just dumped it into a brand-new MB brown ink well. Oh my God! It writes so silky that it was an entirely new experience for me. I have been using a MB 149 and Parker 45 for over 25 years but the Lamy 2000 excels the MB 149 and the Parker in terms of the smoothness. My Lamy looked good and worked great right out of the box -- no leak, no scrachy feeling, perfect symmetrical line on the nib, no problem. I still love my MB but I am extemely happy with purchasing a Lamy 2000. BTW I paid for $118 OTD (shipping included).

[blak000]

congrats on your pen, sqldosa. i'm sure it'll bring you years of satisfaction.