Vintage Pen Filler System Help

[eharriett]

I got an oddity at a show this past weekend. It is an old pen called a Marksman. Even curiouser, it has an Eversharp nib on it.

 

Here's the front of the box:

 

Here is the pen disassembled in its components. It is a nice acrylic and faceted.

 

Now, here is where it gets interesting: on the back of the box are filling instructions. Judging by them, I would have expected it to be an eyedropper. That was helped by the fact that the section unscrews out.

 

But, when I opened the pen, there was a rod in the center of the barrel and some kind of plunger, stopping me from being able to fill the barrel:

 

And lastly, the end of the barrel twists, but does not really pull out. I pulled it as far as it could go, shown in this picture. I'm not sure if I was even supposed to do that, however, it did move the plunger inside in the barrel a little bit

 

So my question is, what have I got here? Did the seller put the wrong pen in this box and it is a plunger(piston?) filler? Is there something else I am missing?

[Honeybadgers]

You have a doric vacuum filler, like a TWSBI vac700R or pilot 823. Restoring them is a very specialized job, so if it doesn't fill, send an email to ron at mainstreet pens. He's going to be restoring my doric (same filling system) soon

Edited April 30, 2019 by Honeybadgers

[Ron Z]

It is a Doric in a box from another manufacturer. Nice color on the pen too!

[eharriett]

 

You.....

Are.......

Kidding ......

 

Unbelievable!

[inkstainedruth]

Nice find!

My friend Karl is going to so jealous -- he's a sucker for Dorics.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[OMASsimo]

Congratulations, you lucked out to find a little gem! It's so worth being restored and enjoyed afterwards.

[eharriett]

This is the second Doric that I’ve found in circumstances like this.

 

I’ve really got to learn how to identify these.

[Honeybadgers]

the adjustable nibs usually give the dorics away, but if it's got a hexagonal barrel and says wahl on it, you're golden.

 

How much did ya get it for? It's probably worth 150 unrestored.

Edited May 1, 2019 by Honeybadgers

[eharriett]

the adjustable nibs usually give the dorics away, but if it's got a hexagonal barrel and says wahl on it, you're golden.

 

How much did ya get it for? It's probably worth 150 unrestored.

Says Eversharp on the nib, actually. Can’t find the “Wahl” anywhere. And no gold dot. Oh well.

 

Was $20 complete with box. Not kidding. Actually it is my girlfriend who pointed it out and wanted it, so I got it for her. I plan on dragging her to at least one of the pen shows I’m going to this year, so I might introduce her to Ron when I give him my yearly pilgrimage of pens beyond my means. But I already told her while I have gotten somewhat decent at restoring some pens, this one is a bit beyond my means, and is a bit more valuable.

 

I’m just glad I had learned from earlier restorations and questions in the repair forum to always use water, heat, and expect to unscrew the section, even if it is friction fit. Since I didn’t know what I had, I didn’t know what to expect, but it is a screw in section, so once I saw, I unscrewed the rest. The education this forum has given me gave me enough knowledge to know how to not break a pen I thought had no value but had quite a bit of, after all. I quite enjoy this hobby and learning these things and I hope to here for awhile and pass along what I am learning now.

[Honeybadgers]

Holy (bleep) man, you scored BIGTIME.

 

Don't restore it yourself. Get Ron to do it. The pen is worth at least $200-400 restored.

[eharriett]

Holy (bleep) man, you scored BIGTIME.

 

Don't restore it yourself. Get Ron to do it. The pen is worth at least $200-400 restored.

So I am discovering.

 

This is the second time this has happened to me with an Eversharp. Only this time I was unaware it was an Eversharp. The public, I guess, does not recognize the name anymore.