Please Help With Identifying Two Cross Townsend Lapis Lazuli

[readytotalk]

Please help with identifying (and maybe dating, first of all) my two Cross Townsend Lapis Lazuli, which look a bit different.

The differences are most in disign of nibs and feeds, but also in serial numbers (on section thread). Also, prints on caps are different, "Cross - USA" and "Cross Made in USA" respectively.

I`ve been told, that nibs of Townsends were made by Pelikan, but I cant idenify wich one (or both maybe)? But nibs are quite different, the F nib is much more rigid than M (with "curvy" tins).

Thanks

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[Croma]

Hello:

I think the pen with Pelikan nib is oldest than other, I think with nib made by Pilot.

Regards.

 

[readytotalk]

Thanks a lot!

Indeed, now I noticed that there is a thickening on the back of the nib closer to the top, just like Pilot nibs.

Edited April 10, 2019 by readytotalk

[Croma]

Thanks a lot!

Indeed, now I noticed that there is a thickening on the back of the nib closer to the top, just like Pilot nibs.

Hello:

Exactly, that thicker zone is a feature from Pilot.

Here is a dicussion about this topic (https://www.relojes-especiales.com/foros/estilograficas/presentacion-cross-townsend-verde-marmol-324937/2/)

Regards.

[readytotalk]

Thanks again!

[Croma]

Welcome.

[Honeybadgers]

That's interesting. I didn't know cross used makers other than sailor.

 

Do we know who made the nib on the spire? It's a damn fine writer, but does feel very pelikan-ish.

 

That lapis townsend finish is amazing. I can't wait to get my platinum guilloche back from repair

Edited April 30, 2019 by Honeybadgers

[readytotalk]

That lapis townsend finish is amazing.

Real eye-catcher)