Pilot Soft Fine Medium Vs Regular Medium Gold Nib?

[Mongoosey]

On 11/21/2022 at 9:42 AM, CoolBreeze said:

@Mongoosey - Thank you for this thread as it seems it was close to what I was looking for as well. I'm curious if you still feel the same way about your preferences. I'm looking for something for work/everyday writing, bouncy, but not looking for tine spread, and something that is not fatiguing. I honestly want to keep a consistent line for the most part but wouldn't mind ever so slight variation at the larger ends of the pressure spectrum. 

 

I've tried the flex and semi-flex nibs from FPnibs and they just spread so easily. I also tried the flex steel from Franklin Christoph which is hard as a nail. I've not tried a Jowo gold nib but my Pelikan m805 nib is hard as a rock. The closest thing I've come to in an everyday writer is the 18k Pilot VP (which I love). I just looking for that style of bounce in a "non-retractable nib" format. I was hoping the Pilot 743/823 in F (or maybe even fine/medium or medium) (Size 15) might be that answer. What do you think?

 

Yes.  I feel the same.

I much prefer the regular pilot gold nibs over the pilot soft gold nibs.  That goes for gold nibs in general for me.  I like the Lamy gold nibs (I actually use the lamy 14K gold nib on my safari because it's such a convenient pen to use).  I do like Jowo Gold nibs, but they are on the stiffer side of gold nibs, but still significantly/noticeably better than jowo steel nibs even though I still like jowo steel nibs especially if they are tuned well.  I actually have a steel jowo XF tuned by Mark Bacas from a Scriptorium Pens purchase and it's one of the best steel nibs I've ever used, but I still find myself naturally returning back to regular gold nibbed pens. 

For regular handwriting I've found that the Pilot Fine Medium regular gold nib is the Goldilocks for me, for typical sized hand writing.  I like the Pilot Medium regular gold nib as well, but it can be a little thick, but it's still a pleasure to use.  I've tried the Fine (on the 743 and Vanishing Point) is great if write very small but when trying to write normal sized it will have a lot feedback and it tires my hand out. 

The 743 and 823's are great choices.  The longer nib makes a big difference in terms of comfort and reducing hand fatigue, and they're built very well.

[CoolBreeze]

On 12/4/2022 at 6:06 PM, Mongoosey said:

 

Yes.  I feel the same.

I much prefer the regular pilot gold nibs over the pilot soft gold nibs.  That goes for gold nibs in general for me.  I like the Lamy gold nibs (I actually use the lamy 14K gold nib on my safari because it's such a convenient pen to use).  I do like Jowo Gold nibs, but they are on the stiffer side of gold nibs, but still significantly/noticeably better than jowo steel nibs even though I still like jowo steel nibs especially if they are tuned well.  I actually have a steel jowo XF tuned by Mark Bacas from a Scriptorium Pens purchase and it's one of the best steel nibs I've ever used, but I still find myself naturally returning back to regular gold nibbed pens. 

For regular handwriting I've found that the Pilot Fine Medium regular gold nib is the Goldilocks for me, for typical sized hand writing.  I like the Pilot Medium regular gold nib as well, but it can be a little thick, but it's still a pleasure to use.  I've tried the Fine (on the 743 and Vanishing Point) is great if write very small but when trying to write normal sized it will have a lot feedback and it tires my hand out. 

The 743 and 823's are great choices.  The longer nib makes a big difference in terms of comfort and reducing hand fatigue, and they're built very well.

@Mongoosey - Sorry for the delay. My FPN email updates are not working. This was a great response and I appreciate the comparison with other gold nibs as well. I'm trying to get a gauge on nib tipping size...I know you said you like the Fine Medium - may I ask what paper ruling you use? 5mm, 6mm, 7mm - etc? Thanks so much!

[Mongoosey]

I use 6mm Kokuyo's sometimes for work, but mostly 7mm (college rule).

[CoolBreeze]

13 hours ago, Mongoosey said:

I use 6mm Kokuyo's sometimes for work, but mostly 7mm (college rule).

Thank you so much. Very helpful.

[Ztsu]

Hey all.. Looked like the relevant place to ask this:

 I have these pens from pilot and I was wondering if anybody here has tried SFM in all three nib sizes.

Pilot C 743 SF

Pilot C 823 M

Pilot CH 912 SFM

Pilot VP - F

 

I was planning on getting a C 743 in SFM because i absolutely loved the CH 912 SFM nib. though the pen is slightly smaller for me..

I have large hands so i was thinking of transplanting the #10 SFM onto the 823 since i am enjoying the balance of the 823 immensely.

My question is what are the differences if any between the #5/#10/#15 SFM nibs if any.

couldn't find any comparisons of these specific nibs. Grateful for any inputs on this.

 

 

[Lithium466]

I can't help you on the precise comparisons, but the 743 SFM will be just like the SF, except with a larger line of course.

 

The only point of comparison I have between #10 and #15 is for the FA nib, and the #10 is softer than the #15. No idea if that translates to SFM variants, considering they are quite different in design, however since you have the #10 SFM and the #15 SF, that should already give you a good idea.

[Ztsu]

While I love the  #10 SFM, I'm not a huge fan of the #15 SF. I find mine to be picky with inks.. Does write well with certain wetter inks.

I was wondering if the differences between the #10 and #15 FA also sort of carry over to the SFM as well... can't seem to find someone who has all 3 (#5, 10, 15 nibs) or a comparison online with only the SFM nibs.