Adding To The Flock

[Lam1]

34 minutes ago, Intensity said:

Is it possible the OB nib was adjusted to remove the oblique angle prior to your purchase, perhaps for the original owner if these are preowned?

 

Yes, I do think this is the case.

The cut of the nib seems to be the one of a cursive italic made by a nib grinder (very similar to some that Michael Masuyama worked for me). The BB seems to be original, though.

[Intensity]

Still beautiful nibs to be sure! 

[stoen]

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  On 3/31/2019 at 5:12 PM, the-smell-of-dust-after-rain said: 

“I admit it, I'm surprised that fountain pens are a hobby. ... it's a bit like stumbling into a fork convention - when you've used a fork all your life.” 

Maybe so. Yet, I have two tiny remarks:

 

- what’s wrong about having a hobby of collecting and restoring, let’s say, damaged forks?

 

- in an age where everything is loud and running fast, a hobby which is literate, silent and has to do with traditional writing instruments looks quite appealing to me.

🙂

To go back on topic, here’s a new addition. In fact, it stayed in my drawer for some time. Due to its neglected condition, it required some extra time, care and patience to get properly restored (still the cap ring needs replating). It is a bit unusual pen - a 1950 / 51 400 with EF nib and nice, somewhat lighter brown parts, vivid tortoise shell pattern and double nib size imprint:

 

-knob: EF

-barrel: PELIKAN GÜNTHER WAGNER PELIKAN EF

 

and an uncommon black elastomer piston seal.

 

Here it is now, restored back to life:

 

 

and its nib close view:

 

 

Hope you like it.

[inkstainedruth]

Very nice.  My first bird was a 1990s era M400, bought about 8 years ago for a special occasion. 

My husband was sort of freaking out over the price because I had NEVER bought a pen remotely that expensive before. I think that he's changed his mind on it, though, now that I have the M405 Stresemann and picked up an M405 in the Blue Black at the same time -- and SAVED money by buying from Rolf Thiel's eBay store (so I didn't have to pay the US distributor markup, and he didn't have to charge me VAT, and back then eBay wasn't automatically adding in sales tax...). 

Of course, after I hit the buy button on those two pens, I got this call from PayPal.... "Did you know that a charge of [  ] dollars was just sent from your PayPal account to a vendor in Europe?"  "Why, yes; yes I did know -- but thank you for calling...."  Then got off the phone, looked at my husband and said "OMG -- I really DID spend that much money only TWO pens.... "

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[stoen]

22 hours ago, inkstainedruth said:

I had NEVER bought a pen remotely that expensive before

Thanks for your kind words about my new pen, @inkstainedruth. 

I appreciate your buying habits, since some things are really worth taking a bit of risk as well as paying its price, if one can afford it.

 

As for me, I’m more on the slow, easy going side. I have never bought an expensive pen. I have never bought a pen remotely, only what I could have inspected personally.

🙂

[Lam1]

On 2/8/2023 at 8:14 PM, Intensity said:

Still beautiful nibs to be sure! 

 

Thanks.

 

 

[Lam1]

On 2/9/2023 at 2:58 AM, stoen said:

Maybe so. Yet, I have two tiny remarks:

 

- what’s wrong about having a hobby of collecting and restoring, let’s say, damaged forks?

 

- in an age where everything is loud and running fast, a hobby which is literate, silent and has to do with traditional writing instruments looks quite appealing to me.

🙂

To go back on topic, here’s a new addition. In fact, it stayed in my drawer for some time. Due to its neglected condition, it required some extra time, care and patience to get properly restored (still the cap ring needs replating). It is a bit unusual pen - a 1950 / 51 400 with EF nib and nice, somewhat lighter brown parts, vivid tortoise shell pattern and double nib size imprint:

 

-knob: EF

-barrel: PELIKAN GÜNTHER WAGNER PELIKAN EF

 

and an uncommon black elastomer piston seal.

 

Here it is now, restored back to life:

 

 

and its nib close view:

 

 

Hope you like it.

 

 

Beautiful pen, @stoen! 

Congratulations. 

 

Restoring a pen to use is something very pleasing and, to me, it is kind of a therapy!  

 

[Christopher Godfrey]

<Restoring a pen...is kind of a therapy!>

 

Oh, good one, Lam1: now if ever I needed any excuse or justification, there it is!  Thank you for those meaningful words!  (We all need some therapy, after all, I daresay?)  😄

[Lam1]

17 hours ago, Christopher Godfrey said:

<Restoring a pen...is kind of a therapy!>

 

Oh, good one, Lam1: now if ever I needed any excuse or justification, there it is!  Thank you for those meaningful words!  (We all need some therapy, after all, I daresay?)  😄

 

😃

It is also a lot cheaper than paying for therapy!! 🙃

And, indeed, we all need some kind of therapy. For me, it is repairing pens and playing with my adorable dogs.

[mana]

...I might have an IBIS 130 flying my way... pics later.

Will be great to finally be able to put this fantastic IBIS nib (that I got from an IBIS which turned out to be a parts/donor pen... le sigh...) into use. As in, the one I am waiting for has a Pelikan 140 nib in it. Just hoping that that one will be sound otherwise, have had a really bad track record with Pelikan 100 and IBIS so far... 😅

[stoen]

1 hour ago, mana said:

…an IBIS which turned out to be a parts/donor pen...

On some special occasions I don’t see anything wrong about parts/donor pens, as long as everything matches.

 

Here’s my example: Recently I got a 1954 Pelikan 140, with modular cap, but with a newer safety locking cap tube, which prevents the pen from accidentally opening in the pocket. Since I wouldn’t sell it further, I don’t mind that “PELIKAN 140” imprint stays on both cap ring and barrel. I just enjoy using a wonderful early 140 smooth writing pen with an extra safety feature.

🙂

 

Good luck with your new Ibis 130! I also have one. It’s a great pen, IMHO.

[mana]

Ah, what I meant with parts/donor pens were pens that were bought with the hope of them either being functional, or at least restorable... which they weren't 😅

[stoen]

I just found a spare cap tube, which happened to be the right one: with no ring imprint. My lovely thick-stripe green marbled & black 1954 Model 140 is now  

fully “by the book”:

 

- no captop logo

- modular cap with no tube ring imprint

- barrel imprint saying:

   PELIKAN 140 GÜNTHER WAGNER GERMANY

- thick clip

 

and is “officially” added to the flock. The nib is a smooth, highly flexible M with superb ink flow control. So, may I please feel free to present it to the community?

 

🙂

[mana]

On 2/20/2023 at 12:08 PM, mana said:

Ah, what I meant with parts/donor pens were pens that were bought with the hope of them either being functional, or at least restorable... which they weren't 😅

"One week later..."

Got the pens, the IBIS 130 is in a really good condition overall (body needs a bit of buffing/slight manual polishing with Micro-Gloss and soft cloth to get rid of superficial scratches)...

I also got a bonus pen in the same package (for free!), an early black 140 that has seen better days. Funny thing, the 140 came with an old style single line script nib while the 130 had an early chevron nib. Go figure... oh well, the IBIS 130 will end up having an IBIS nib unit from an earlier one, nice to get a spare 100 size nib unit though

Anyhoo... some pen "repair" is ahead. Both need new piston seals, for starters.

Also, the 140 filling knob and spindle have separated (someone kept on twisting the filling mechanism/piston forward, which is connected to the filling mechanism body, that, as a result, got pushed out just enough for the filling knob could turn enough to jump the external threads and as a result, the filling mechanism is now in two parts). So, the whole thing needs to come apart and be set at right depth.

Hmmm, now to source myself some 140/IBIS 130 size piston seals... I wonder if the ones meant for post-war 100N or 400 would fit? I've no idea as I haven't had to replace one from them yet.

EDIT: The 140 uses the same seal as the post-war 100N, and the 400 series pens. Assembled the 140, and now after a gentle polish, it looks pretty dapper, no brassing, etc. Also, fun bit of trivia, it has the "Export" stamped on the body (the other 140 that is almost 1:1 clone doesn't).

 

Now onward with the IBIS 130... but it doesn't seem to use the same seals 😕 I tried to measure the internal dimensions with calipers and got 8.5 mm (the seals that fit the 140, from David Nishimura, are 9.0 mm in diameter). Really don't want to push it because of the material thicknesses involved, mighty thin around the inner threads.

Random tidbit of info: the caps from earlier generation IBIS (the ones with the cork seals) do not fit the new one as the external diameter of the barrel is different (too big for the old cap).

 

[mana]

Snaps galore, restored with new piston seals plus a light manual polish applied.

 

 

[Mercian]

2 hours ago, mana said:

Snaps galore, restored with new piston seals plus a light manual polish applied.

👏 Brilliant work!

[tacitus]

A beautiful flock of 130 and 140😄.

 

May I ask you about gold IBIS nib unit?

Is the nib from pre-war IBIS pen?, and how many fins dose the feed have, four fins or three fins?

 

I am curious about if the three-fin feed continued to be used for IBIS in 1950's or it was replaced by a four-fin feed like 100N.

[mana]

33 minutes ago, tacitus said:

A beautiful flock of 130 and 140😄.

 

May I ask you about gold IBIS nib unit?

Is the nib from pre-war IBIS pen?, and how many fins dose the feed have, four fins or three fins?

 

I am curious about if the three-fin feed continued to be used for IBIS in 1950's or it was replaced by a four-fin feed like 100N.

 

Yes, it is indeed from a pre-war IBIS, hope these pictures help.

[carola]

Very pretty, mana! Beautiful pens and nice work.

[mana]

11 minutes ago, carola said:

Very pretty, mana! Beautiful pens and nice work.

Thanks!

 

@tacitus, more info on the nib unit that was in the IBIS 130 originally, the nib is the early logo/chevron nib for a 140 but the rest of the parts of the nib unit are the same as in the pre-war one… and that was a convoluted and lengthy way to say that it has a three-fin feed also