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3 hours ago, TitoThePencilPimp said:

Did you get it tuned by FS?

 

~ @TitoThePencilPimp:

 

No, it arrived without having been tested or opened.

 

The three previous Pelikan Souverän M400 EFs had all been ideal, therefore it seemed best to trust Pelikan.

 

As it happened, this model was as excellent, if not better, than the previous three.

 

By contrast, what has been tuned, tested, and modified with Fritz Schimpf Italic Grinds were three Pelikan Souverän M800s.

 

A fourth such Souverän M800, an unexpected NOS, is currently being prepared with a Fritz Schimpf Italic Grind.

 

In October it's possible that it might be posted here.

 

Thank you for your interest.

 

         Tom K.

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On 9/19/2022 at 5:13 AM, mana said:

"Another joins the flock, another joins the flock..."

Yesterday was pretty crazy auctions wise. One of the regional online auction sites had four vintage Pelikan sales ending within a few hours of each other (from different sellers, to boot). There was a mint 100N with a sticker, a heart hole nib 100 (later cap though), a mint M700 Toledo, and an IBIS 130.  Was aiming at the first two but got outbid out of my comfort zone... so I turned to ebay instead and found something that piqued my interest enough to pull the trigger even though it was a bit more than what I have usually paid for such, a Pelikan 400 Tortoise with one of those lovely earlier style 14k BB-nibs. That will make it my fifth vintage Pelikan with a BB-nib (Yeah, I know...) :D

 

Will be a while since I will get it as the merchant seems to ship things in batches...

Photographs from the auction:
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Pelikan 400 Tortoise BB - 06 - Nib underside.jpg

 

 

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4 hours ago, Tom Kellie said:

 

~ @TitoThePencilPimp:

 

No, it arrived without having been tested or opened.

 

The three previous Pelikan Souverän M400 EFs had all been ideal, therefore it seemed best to trust Pelikan.

 

As it happened, this model was as excellent, if not better, than the previous three.

 

By contrast, what has been tuned, tested, and modified with Fritz Schimpf Italic Grinds were three Pelikan Souverän M800s.

 

A fourth such Souverän M800, an unexpected NOS, is currently being prepared with a Fritz Schimpf Italic Grind.

 

In October it's possible that it might be posted here.

 

Thank you for your interest.

 

         Tom K.

That is probably the best ef Pelikan nib I have seen on the mxxx series. Owner for 20 ef Pelikans. Now, I am wondering if they inspect the nibs before sent out.

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6 hours ago, TitoThePencilPimp said:

That is probably the best ef Pelikan nib I have seen on the mxxx series. Owner for 20 ef Pelikans. Now, I am wondering if they inspect the nibs before sent out.

Over the years, I have found Pelikan nib quality control to vary greatly. Some work great out-of-the-box, others don't. In the past, I've taken a handful of Pelikan to John Mottishaw at the LA Pen Show for tune-ups. Things may have improved recently. My newer Pelikans have worked well. I have a few broad and double broad pens from another famous German brand. They were all hard-starters and and skipped. I took them to the San Francisco Pen Show and the nibmeister there said he often finds it with that brand. They tend to over polish the nibs and give them "babies' bottoms". That should be illegal.  

"One can not waste time worrying about small minds . . . If we were normal, we'd still be using free ball point pens." —Bo Bo Olson

 

"I already own more ink than a rational person can use in a lifetime." —Waski_the_Squirrel

 

I'm still trying to figure out how to list all my pens down here.

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I've had problems with "babies bottom" on a couple of broad nibs, particularly on the M200/205 pens.  But for the most part have not had an issue.  

Really bummed that the 1980s era Pelikano (for which I paid five bucks at a pen show one year) snapped at the join between the barrel and the ink window.  That pen was SUCH a nice writer -- the nib was a nail, but an amazingly smooth nail.... 

I keep wondering if there is any way to either harvest the nib and feed from that (I doubt the pen is repairable).

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

"It's very nice, but frankly, when I signed that list for a P-51, what I had in mind was a fountain pen."

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Nib and feed of the Pelikanos can just be pulled straight out. But do not twist! They only fit in one way because of a notch inside the section and a groove in the feed.

Unfortunately those older Pelikano nibs won't fit in the most recent models, but if you find another pen from that era, you can exchange the nib. There are various models which share the same nib+feed unit.

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I've been very disappointed with the grinds on the EF nibs recently, to the point that I started ordering Fs. Some of the F nibs are over-polished. I have found that the EFs on the m101ns write much better. I don't know if it's a quality of the way the nibs are made or the attention to tuning, but I can feel the difference. 

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A flock of Pelikans was won in a live auction a couple weeks ago.

 

The top was a West Germany Pelikan BP. In the middle is a Auch Pelikan MP '34-36.

One of those pre 200's with the twist off finial, that hides a Pelikan marked inner cap.

A blue stripped 400 sized Roller ball.......wife's now.

A CN nibbed 100,it is a little bit longer than my 100n. Luckily I have a spare CN nib in this one's got a broken tipping. Both are just regular flex, not the flexi nibs that many CN's are.

The 400nn is an oddity. It is semi-flex, but is an KF nib...one of those American Bump Under nibs instead of a stub, or having the kugel on the top of the nib, it's on the bottom......it is small, not the big bump of a 120.

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The black and gray marbled pen is a push button 223 Osmia...a '30's pen. Just above it is a an Osmia-Faber Castel mdl 52 BB....more a OBB than the BB marked.

 

Because of that Auch Pelikan MP, I went looking at my MP's and found out I have a collection of them.:yikes:...some 15 or so, some old not counting the 4 or so antique silver Propelling Pencils, that will be pulled out of the flea market boxes. When I didn't have a collection of MP's, there was no reason to keep them.

 

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

Ransom Bucket cost me many of my pictures taken by a poor camera that was finally tossed. Luckily, the Chicken Scratch pictures also vanished.

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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20 hours ago, Bo Bo Olson said:

A flock of Pelikans was won in a live auction a couple weeks ago.

 

The top was a West Germany Pelikan BP. In the middle is a Auch Pelikan MP '34-36.

One of those pre 200's with the twist off finial, that hides a Pelikan marked inner cap.

A blue stripped 400 sized Roller ball.......wife's now.

A CN nibbed 100,it is a little bit longer than my 100n. Luckily I have a spare CN nib in this one's got a broken tipping. Both are just regular flex, not the flexi nibs that many CN's are.

The 400nn is an oddity. It is semi-flex, but is an KF nib...one of those American Bump Under nibs instead of a stub, or having the kugel on the top of the nib, it's on the bottom......it is small, not the big bump of a 120.

SXx7eYC.jpg

The black and gray marbled pen is a push button 223 Osmia...a '30's pen. Just above it is a an Osmia-Faber Castel mdl 52 BB....more a OBB than the BB marked.

 

Because of that Auch Pelikan MP, I went looking at my MP's and found out I have a collection of them.:yikes:...some 15 or so, some old not counting the 4 or so antique silver Propelling Pencils, that will be pulled out of the flea market boxes. When I didn't have a collection of MP's, there was no reason to keep them.

 

Nice catch, @Bo Bo Olson! What shape is that CN 100 in? It looks really nice.

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In it's old I'm going to send it off to be re-corked, in I like cork better than plastic gasket 1.0. But that looks good. I'll ask Francis his advice on that, but tend to think the smoother cork is the way to go. He'll replace the nib with a spare CN nib I had laying around. I'm sure I could look up how to force the nib out and force a new nib in, but if I'm sending it off to be re-corked, why should I sweat breaking the pen.

 

The problem is to ink it with the broken nib tip makes no sense to me.

 

Green windows appeared in '37 (Rick said he;d run into green ink windows before that, but then he talked about the material making up of pens of that era and I have no idea how to tell what he's talking about. Two chicks according to Pelikan Perch appear in '38.....so is later than that mechanical 'Auch Pelikan' (Also Pelikan) pencil ('34-36). There were others made slightly differently later. But I was happy to find out it was a first model.

 

I don't really go chasing after certain pens ....LOM. So they fall into my hands from pure blind luck. The near mint 100N, was one lucky flea market  find....I'd never expected to own one.

This lot was another, with it's 100, I also never expected to own. The 100 is a bit longer than the 100n.

In reference to P. T. Barnum; to advise for free is foolish, ........busybodies are ill liked by both factions.

Ransom Bucket cost me many of my pictures taken by a poor camera that was finally tossed. Luckily, the Chicken Scratch pictures also vanished.

The cheapest lessons are from those who learned expensive lessons. Ignorance is best for learning expensive lessons.

 

 

 

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Its a great Pelikan. I bought mine to scratch the Hemingway itch and for the avoidance of a terminal level of trauma to my wallet. Enjoy it.

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2 hours ago, Uncial said:

Its a great Pelikan. I bought mine to scratch the Hemingway itch and for the avoidance of a terminal level of trauma to my wallet. Enjoy it.

 

~ @Uncial:

 

Thank you!

 

It writes so well that I've sought excuses to use it throughout the afternoon.

 

      Tom K.

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Just added the M200 Amber and Cognac. They are the two middle pens in the photo, between the Yellow and Smoky Quartz.

I particularly like the Amber shade.

 

 

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I just received this Pelikan 400nn from Japan. It was made by Merz & Krell - I believe it's an export model made for the Japanese market in the 1970s. The pictures of the pen looked very good when I ordered it on the website. However, it looks even better now I see it in person. I was pleasantly surprised to find out that it was never inked. It has a vibrant and beautiful color. The transparency is very nice, even though the barrel is celluloid and is relatively old. I hope the photos show this well.

Now I'm hesitant to ink it, but I will; I will use some very safe ink so as not to stain the barrel.

 

 

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Pretty pen!  What's the nib on it?

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

"It's very nice, but frankly, when I signed that list for a P-51, what I had in mind was a fountain pen."

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20 hours ago, inkstainedruth said:

Pretty pen!  What's the nib on it?

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

Thank you! It is an F nib, seems to be standard Pelikan of the era, 14k with a little natural flex and ebonite feed. The tines needed a little adjustment. I tried it with modern Sheaffer Blue and it writes very nicely with good flow.

Richard

 

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I just love browsing all these pictures of these beautiful birbs... The color on that 400nn is magnificent! Congrats!

On 10/28/2022 at 3:58 AM, Nyoko said:

I just received this Pelikan 400nn from Japan. It was made by Merz & Krell - I believe it's an export model made for the Japanese market in the 1970s. The pictures of the pen looked very good when I ordered it on the website. However, it looks even better now I see it in person. I was pleasantly surprised to find out that it was never inked. It has a vibrant and beautiful color. The transparency is very nice, even though the barrel is celluloid and is relatively old. I hope the photos show this well.

Now I'm hesitant to ink it, but I will; I will use some very safe ink so as not to stain the barrel.

 

 

pelikan400-1.JPG

pelikan400-2.JPG

pelikan400-3.JPG

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