Any Safe And Water Resistant Blue Ink Or Blue Black For A Parker 51 Aerometric?

[Edo98]

Hello everyone at FPN , on Friday I just bought my first vintage fountain pen a beautiful Parker 51 teal blue lustraloy cap in near mint condition and restored, I look forward to it coming soon .

 

I'm looking for a blue-black or blue ink that is water resistant and does not fade like other blue inks I've used before such as lamy blue that behaves quite well but my notes that I took a few months ago are about to disappear completely and also with the water goes completely.

 

For that kind of problems I usually use noodler's black and blue black which turned out to be good inks in my 2000 lamy but the thing is that the lamy 2000 can be completely disassembled to give it a deep cleaning with water. I do this every one or two weeks .

 

First I clean it quite well with water until the clear water comes out and then I dismantle it and I have noticed that although the water has gone clear, I find the feeder and the interior of the hood stained as if they had soot. What is presented fairly with the noodler's inks is nib creep.

 

This does not bother me as much in my 2000 lamy as I mentioned earlier because I can completely disassemble it and clean it thoroughly. But I'm wondering if using this type of ink would be detrimental to Parker 51 when I did not know how to disassemble it and remove that soot or dye residue inside the hood and the feeder.

 

 

So I ask you what ink do you recommend for Parker 51 that is water resistant and does not fade and is low maintenance and does not clog.

 

I have seen good reviews about the pilot blue-black ink and it is low maintenance

 

So I hope your recommendations and that you share your experiences with me since it is my first vintage fountain pen.

 

Edited November 26, 2018 by Edo98

[mitto]

I would recommend using Parker quink, Waterman, sheaffer scrip and Pelikan inks. Mainly blue, black and blue black.

[Jerome Tarshis]

Broadly speaking, blue inks are going to fade more rapidly than I would prefer. That is, in our time, in large part because the quality of paper has on the average declined from what it was in the past. I have had notebooks dating back to the 1960s and 1970s in which writing in blue ink remained strong after the passage of decades. More recently I have found blue ink tending to fade without any exposure to light. So I use black ink and tell myself things are not perfect in our imperfect world.

 

An Indian pen pal has recommended Bril royal blue as a blue ink less likely to fade than the inks I would tend to use. But his parents live in Bangalore, where Bril inks are manufactured, and his father, also a pen lunatic, sends him packages.

 

I am one of those older pen users who sees no reason to take apart a pen unless there is something terribly wrong. I understand that others, in our time though not in my youth, see things differently. In my view pens don't need to be "thoroughly cleaned." Not pens that are satisfactory to begin with.

 

Buying a used pen that has caked old ink in it, possibly India ink, can make things different, though. Still, a pen that works well ought not to need disassembly. I completely understand the wish to be invulnerable and omnipotent, but haven't chosen cleaning fountain pens as a place to fulfill that wish. Others make different choices.

[Mr.Rene]

I would recommend using Parker quink, Waterman, sheaffer scrip and Pelikan inks. Mainly blue, black and blue black.

Mitto those inks are not water resistant...but Pelikan Blue Black old formula, iron gall...Regards.

[Olya]

The Waterman and Pelikan blue inks are excatly those, which fade. Also Parker Quink Washable Blue. Pelikan 4001 Royal Blue is a washable blue, hence fading is an issue. Same with Lamy (Royal) Blue. And Waterman Florida/ Serenity Blue. All German inks called "Royal Blue"/ "Königsblau" are in fact called in the English speaking language "washable blue".

 

Fading with blue inks isn't such an issue if you avoid the washables. Black ink does tend to fare better in fade & water tests, but many blues hold their own very well.

 

Diamine has a great choice, J Herbin, Sailor, Pilot. Also Parker, Pelikan, Lamy, and the others as long as you avoid their Royal Blues/ Königsblau.

 

The cheapest ink with impeccable water resistance (I'd call them waterproof!) and good behaviour are Pilot Blue and Blue Black.

 

Jerome T above might be of the older school, but the same applies today: there is no reason whatsoever to take your pen apart for cleaning, and cleaning with water and at best dish soap is more than sufficient when changing inks & switching colours. If you don't switch colours or change brands, there's no reason for even that. Taking a pen apart should be a very last resort and be done with good reason - sth isn't right or maintenance requires it (e.g. re-lubing a piston).

[TSherbs]

Some pens are made with ease of disassembly in mind, and are inexpensive to boot. Not much risk or downside, and the cleanup is more thorough and efficient, especially with the black residue that we are discussing here. It resists soaking and regular flushing, and it can discolor subsequent inks. This is why I use my Singularity. Fits the bill for my pesky inks.

[DavidCampen]

Pilot Blue-Black is water resistant but not waterproof. I have 2 years of notebooks where I have used it and I do not notice any fading.

[katerchen]

Another vote for Pilot Blue-Black.

 

It may not be document-quality proof, but there is so little loss even after vigorous soaking, that for those who just need to worry about accidental spills, it's plenty.

 

-k

[inkstainedruth]

Not quite what you may be looking for, Edo98, but if you run across any vintage Quink Microfilm Black for V-Mail (the stuff from the 1940s), it's pretty water resistant, and certainly safe for a vintage pen (I ran it for several months in a Parker Vacumatic, which is celluloid rather than Lucite like 51s are). My bottle of it tends to run with a blue undertone to it (as opposed to the vintage Skrip V-Black -- Sheaffer's equivalent -- I have, which runs more grey).

But you should know that 51s are actually pretty rugged (especially if it's an Aerometric model). Remember -- they were designed to use Superchrome ink in them originally, and I gather that's pretty noxious stuff.

Congrats on your first 51, BTW -- my first was a teal Aerometric I won on eBay a few years ago. (I say first because it's very easy to get "51 fever" and end up wanting MORE of them.... )

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[Carrau]

+1 for Pilot Blue Black, plus, it has the added advantage of being quite inexpensive. If you buy the 350ml bottle, on Amazon it’s $21.34 presently.

[Edo98]

Not quite what you may be looking for, Edo98, but if you run across any vintage Quink Microfilm Black for V-Mail (the stuff from the 1940s), it's pretty water resistant, and certainly safe for a vintage pen (I ran it for several months in a Parker Vacumatic, which is celluloid rather than Lucite like 51s are). My bottle of it tends to run with a blue undertone to it (as opposed to the vintage Skrip V-Black -- Sheaffer's equivalent -- I have, which runs more grey).

But you should know that 51s are actually pretty rugged (especially if it's an Aerometric model). Remember -- they were designed to use Superchrome ink in them originally, and I gather that's pretty noxious stuff.

Congrats on your first 51, BTW -- my first was a teal Aerometric I won on eBay a few years ago. (I say first because it's very easy to get "51 fever" and end up wanting MORE of them.... )

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

you're right, the 51 parker are pretty nice and I think a future I'll buy more there are so many variants

[Edo98]

Pilot Blue-Black is water resistant but not waterproof. I have 2 years of notebooks where I have used it and I do not notice any fading.

two years without showing fading seems pretty good, is that I need to not fade because in two years I will do the qualification exam of my career and I need my notes are readable and to resist a water accident.

 

It would be terrible if my notes disappeared

[Edo98]

+1 for Pilot Blue Black, plus, it has the added advantage of being quite inexpensive. If you buy the 350ml bottle, on Amazon it’s $21.34 presently.

It seems a very good deal for that price.

[amberleadavis]

Check out the fade tests.

 

Vintage Sheaffer Blue Black is amazing.

Noodler's Midnight Blue.

[tinta]

My favourite water-resistant ink is Pelikan's 4001 blue/black. Not an exciting shade of b/b but it's water resistant enough to read what has been drowned.

Platinum's blue/black is a brighter blue & is also considered by the manufacturer to be a document ink. It was their firsts ink that contained iron-gall. It's in my Sailor right now.

[Ernst Bitterman]

I'm here to add to candidates rather than suggest an alternative, because I support the previous suggestions. I've recently tried Herbin Vert de Gris, which is similar in colour to Pelikan blue-black and has an interesting reaction to water-- the blue element washes away easily, but leaves an apparently permanent grey. It's a slightly expensive ink, but it's going to be a lot more gentle on the guts of a 51 than the inks Parker had marketed for them originally.

[Carrau]

It seems a very good deal for that price.

It’s not an exciting ink, but it’s a great everyday ink, well behaved. I’ve used this to refill Pilot rollerball pens that I carry as lenders.

[welch]

Try:

 

- Vintage permanent Sheaffer Skrip Blue (or Blue-Black), in the blue-yellow box.

 

- Vintage permanent Quink Blue (or Blue-Black) "with Solv-X". A Parker 51 wants vintage Quink.

 

Both are as water-resistant as anyone needs.

 

Incidentally, don't take the 51 apart. A specialist might disassemble a 51 when restoring it, but the pen was designed to run forever -- or counted as forever 70 years ago. In the early '50s, Parker suggested that owners flush their P-51 every few months, but nothing more "invasive".

[Aquaria]

Pilot Namiki Blue and Blue-Black are both water resistant, and cheap, too. I use them for my everyday ink, although on tests for my class, I've taken to using Pelikan Royal Blue, because I can use my eradicator pen if I have to erase a mistake.

Edited November 30, 2018 by Aquaria

[Edo98]

Try:

 

- Vintage permanent Sheaffer Skrip Blue (or Blue-Black), in the blue-yellow box.

 

- Vintage permanent Quink Blue (or Blue-Black) "with Solv-X". A Parker 51 wants vintage Quink.

 

Both are as water-resistant as anyone needs.

 

Incidentally, don't take the 51 apart. A specialist might disassemble a 51 when restoring it, but the pen was designed to run forever -- or counted as forever 70 years ago. In the early '50s, Parker suggested that owners flush their P-51 every few months, but nothing more "invasive".

 

Hello

Of course I would like to try one of those vintage inks but the problem is that the shipment is more expensive than ink , and I just saw and disassemble a parker 51 and it seems somewhat tedious and risky for the hood, so so much today I just bought a bottle of pilot Blue-Black on Amazon since the reviews say it has a good resistance to water and say it is easy to clean.

As I said before I like the performance of Noodler's bulletproof in my Lamy 2000 but because I have the advantage of disassemble and clean waste ink that does not come out with a simple rinse.

 

My concern is that these residues accumulate inside a pen that is difficult to clean like parker 51 and that obstructs the fountain pen.

Thanks for sharing your opinion