Best Montblanc Fakes To Buy

[meiers]

Great thread.

Edited May 16, 2018 by meiers

[Uncial]

I can't get as vexed as some over fakes. They will always be out there, but the issues I do have with them are firstly that they rarely ever work. I will confess I have bought a few to try and get a sense of dimensions and partly out of sheer curiosity. For me, not a single one wrote. They wouldn't fill (even though they were fairly straight forward converter fillers) and when force filled would either not write or would drip ink everywhere and had a host of other side issues. They were a complete waste of time and money and purely from this standpoint I would recommend that people avoid them. Secondly, they are sometimes sold as the genuine article and people unfortunately do get duped. Imagine thinking you were getting a genuine Montblanc for a couple of hundred less than retail only to get a pen that neither fills nor writes, that falls apart or has the nib bend on you at the slightest hint of pressure. More than once I've read scathing 'Montblanc' reviews that were obvious fakes but the reviewer was insistent it was genuine and paid a considerable sum. To me, that is robbery,

[kandarp]

What about this one? Is it a real Borghese? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Montblanc-Multi-Color-Metal-Patron-of-the-Art-115972-Fountain-Pen-/282967400721

Edited May 16, 2018 by Fountainpencrazy

[MuddyWaters]

The alternatives often quoted here are not "easily" obtainable either. Sailor pens are cheaper than MBs but they're still damn expensive for the average person. Again, beauty is on the eye of the beholder, and if one finds a jinhao to be a sufficient experiment for an mb, that is actually smart business.

[meiers]

Jinhao makes great pens. And they are sailing under their own flag.

[Moruk]

No, there are none worth buying. Additionally, buying fakes perpetuates that market and emboldens the cheaters.

 

+1

[Moruk]

What is the problem with a fake as long as it is stated as such and the price is worthy of a fake?

 

You have to ask this question seriously?????

[Dcharles]

I am surprised that the forum would allow and tolerate a thread on the topic of counterfeits. People have posted links to sites selling this junk, and some have even defended the purchase of counterfeit material, trying to justify doing so by some twisted logic.

 

It baffles me that the moderating staff on FPN would tolerate open discussions on this subject. This forum is supposed to be a place for admirers and collectors to discuss and exchange thoughts on this particular brand.

 

There is no advocating nor justifying the purchase of counterfeits. Besides their production being illegal, purchasing them is also immoral to say the least. Its not like these counterfeits are being produced by individual hobbyist.

 

The large scale production of counterfeits requires the backing of organized crime. These are the same organizations involved in currency counterfeit, drugs and human trafficking, theft, credit card fraud and identity theft, racketeering, extortion, money laundering and some are even involved or affiliated with terrorist organizations. These type of organizations have total disregard for the law. They dont give a damn about respecting other peoples property, nor do they care about intellectual rights.

 

So, next time you consider buying that seemingly harmless counterfeit, think of the implications of your actions.

 

To the moderating team I ask you this. Where do we draw the line?

Maybe the next thread should cover the topic of what the best places are to buy stolen Montblancs?

 

Oh please. That's quite the stretch. I'm assuming that I'm one of the individuals you are referring to. I've spent more than my share on authentic Montblancs. I don't feel in the least bit bad about purchasing a throw away pen for a specific purpose. I knew it was junk when I picked it up and I make no attempt to masquerade it as the real thing (I have plenty of those). As luck would have it, it hasn't gotten thrown away and I still continue to use it, refilling it by the way with genuine Montblanc refills that cost four times the price of the pen.

 

I find it interesting that you rationalize the work of individual hobbyists. So Brad Torelli's fakes are ok because they cost just as much as the real deal, but a street vendor charging $5 is a moral outrage?

Edited May 16, 2018 by Dcharles

[Dcharles]

Some of the posts in this thread border on shameful. Mont Blancs are not affordable for most people. Those people shouldn't be faulted for trying to have a small part of the feel for the pen in cheaper versions.

 

This I take issue with. I don't fault people, but they are misguided. I love fountain pens because of the writing experience they provide. There are plenty of affordable fountain pens that can provide a decent writing experience. I've never used a fake MB fountain pen, but I cannot imagine the nibs are remotely enjoyable. An individual looking for the "feel" is doing themselves a disservice and would have a far better experience going with a quality affordable pen than a piece of junk that happens to contain a six pointed star on the cap.

Edited May 16, 2018 by Dcharles

[Kalessin]

The alternatives often quoted here are not "easily" obtainable either. Sailor pens are cheaper than MBs but they're still damn expensive for the average person. Again, beauty is on the eye of the beholder, and if one finds a jinhao to be a sufficient experiment for an mb, that is actually smart business.

 

If it's only the Montblanc-like appearance that gives someone a bit of the magic (without, let's say, the MB star, brand name, and other branding), then there are millions of ballpoint pens out there with a bit of the Montblanc appearance, but not the branding, such as the star, Montblanc name, etc.

 

Lacking the money to buy a real MB isn't reason to buy a fake. There are plenty of inexpensive and well-designed pens out there: Pilot Metropolitans can be bought for under US$20, and are great pens.

[sansenri]

 

 

Thank you for a good, reasoned, thought provoking post.

thank you

[Polanova]

How about fake drugs for people in the so-called third world? That is happening. Still espousing your support of: fakery, who cares? OMASsino's post may have seemed extreme but he had a point regarding criminal enterprises, some of which operate in exactly the fields of your current concern. This is not about whether a luxury goods manufacturer loses some money, and never was so far as I am concerned.

 

 

No argument here. I think what irritates me is the fact that one cannot discuss the big topics on a hobbyist forum. When such topics arise, it`s usually restricted to pens. I always feel that this is trivializing the big-picture-topic. It can`t be helped & I shouldn`t participate in such discussions.

Reminds me of an Environment thread on another pen forum where the topic of saving the environment is restricted to the use of fountain pens!

 

On another note, but reg. this thread, I`d be more interested in the psychology of buying fakes. My guess is that not everyone who buys Rolex, Louis Vutton, MB etc wants to show off but i think that is the motivation of at least some buyers. It seems to be the sole motivation of buyers of fake goods (exceptions noted). Sad really.... and childish. As a kid I once made a camera out of painted cardboard (I couldn`t get a real one) and that gave me the feeling of having a real camera. What`s playful for a kid is pathetic for an adult.

Edited May 16, 2018 by Polanova

[meiers]

 

If it's only the Montblanc-like appearance that gives someone a bit of the magic (without, let's say, the MB star, brand name, and other branding), then there are millions of ballpoint pens out there with a bit of the Montblanc appearance, but not the branding, such as the star, Montblanc name, etc.

 

Lacking the money to buy a real MB isn't reason to buy a fake. There are plenty of inexpensive and well-designed pens out there: Pilot Metropolitans can be bought for under US$20, and are great pens.

YES.

[meiers]

 

 

No argument here. I think what irritates me is the fact that one cannot discuss the big topics on a hobbyist forum. When such topics arise, it`s usually restricted to pens. I always feel that this is trivializing the big-picture-topic. It can`t be helped & I shouldn`t participate in such discussions.

Reminds me of an Environment thread on another pen forum where the topic of saving the environment is restricted to the use of fountain pens!

 

On another note, but reg. this thread, I`d be more interested in the psychology of buying fakes. My guess is that not everyone who buys Rolex, Louis Vutton, MB etc wants to show off but i think that is the motivation of at least some buyers. It seems to be the sole motivation of buyers of fake goods (exceptions noted). Sad really.... and childish. As a kid I once made a camera out of painted cardboard (I couldn`t get a real one) and that gave me the feeling of having a real camera. What`s playful for a kid is pathetic for an adult.

Hats off to children and adults who construct their own toys. Edited May 16, 2018 by meiers

[MuddyWaters]

 

If it's only the Montblanc-like appearance that gives someone a bit of the magic (without, let's say, the MB star, brand name, and other branding), then there are millions of ballpoint pens out there with a bit of the Montblanc appearance, but not the branding, such as the star, Montblanc name, etc.

 

Lacking the money to buy a real MB isn't reason to buy a fake. There are plenty of inexpensive and well-designed pens out there: Pilot Metropolitans can be bought for under US$20, and are great pens.

 

Yes and again, let those people make their own decisions and value judgments on which pens they like. Though the metro is a great pen, I know plenty of people who would rather write with a Jinhao.

[Freddy]

Very interesting read....however fake is fake.

Thanks.......

Fred

the gypsy woman told my mother before I was born

you got a boy child comin'

gonna be a son-of-a-gun

gonna make pretty women jump and shout

then the world wanna know

What this all about

But you know I'm here.....................................................

[meiers]

Very interesting read....however fake is fake.

Thanks.......

Fred

the gypsy woman told my mother before I was born

you got a boy child comin'

gonna be a son-of-a-gun

gonna make pretty women jump and shout

then the world wanna know

What this all about

But you know I'm here.....................................................

You are right: fake is fake. End of story.

 

Thanks for reminding me of an excellent concert experience a few decades ago.

 

Muddy Mississippi Waters was no fake. He played Winnipeg in 1977 and then in 1981 and was perfect both times. I saw him in 1981.

Edited May 16, 2018 by meiers

[AndyLogan]

Hats off to children and adults who construct their own toys.

 

+100,000

 

And the satisfaction that comes with it.

[james3paris]

The 159 is a weapon, the 149 a work of art. Please don't help the fakers.

 

Glenn

+1 I will never buy a fake. Unless, I make a mistake...never is a long time.

[Cordovian]