Pelikan Edelstein Olivine

[RoyalBlueNotebooks]

This a dip pen so over-saturated, but yeah, I was expecting something in-between these colors. I join those who said that Pelikan tricked us with the commercial preview.

[The Good Captain]

I certainly do (know you)! That's where they (the Salamanders) came from!!

Oh indeed - from the home of the Twisted Spire!

[lapis]

Could have sworn I already thought of this while combing through my JH's, but who cares. Thanks for the reminder, Bo.

 

Vert Empire has less blue, more brown, a tick grey... In any case yet another "alternative"....

[RoyalBlueNotebooks]

Could have sworn I already thought of this while combing through my JH's, but who cares. Thanks for the reminder, Bo.

 

Vert Empire has less blue, more brown, a tick grey... In any case yet another "alternative"....

!!! Yes, Vert Empire is closer to what I was hoping for. I love the shading, too. Thank you!

[Honeybadgers]

I got my bottle of olivine ($16 usd) and I love it. it's got such deep color without the washed out feeling that many dark greens have. it works amazingly in big, broad nibs, shading everywhere. No sheen like sailor tokiwa-matsu, but it's still a gorgeous ink and will be a regular in my collection. It's quite well behaved too.

[Bo Bo Olson]

Has anyone tried this ink in semi-flex? That is a wetter nib.

I have a B and OB, M or OF....bound to have two OM's and a F but which they are don't come quickly to mind.

Which would someone suggest?

 

....but am not going to clean that many pens for it. One pen only now.

 

I also have to do the 'new' 4001 dark green too. Anyone try that in semi-flex?

[Honeybadgers]

I've not inked a semiflex but I have inked a firehose of a broad and it's solid.I could ink up a flex nib today.

[Chrissy]

Thank you for the wonderfully detailed review. I think the ink is a great performer, but I also expected a slightly different colour.

[Bo Bo Olson]

I tested lamy and 4001 BB on the same papers. Now testing Edelstein Olivine, and I'm going to be testing later the 4001 dark green also on these same papers.

 

My feathering/woolly line system for papers and inks.

 

BEF....seen while sitting, Bare Eye Feathering/woolly line. …printer paper no matter what gramage.

NEF, ....seen when holding the paper near the eye....OK ink and paper….not worth putting the paper in the printer…if one don’t have a good supply of better.

MAGF....seen with the Honking Big Magnifying Glass. A good ink and paper....worth buying again.

NoMAGF.....no feathering/woolly line with magnifying glass. Buy stock in the company, buy wholesale, smuggle it in.....both paper and ink.

 

Then the Honking Big Magnifying Glass 2.7cm/ 1 14th inch thick three by 4 inch wide....8x11 cm. No, a 10 X loupe is too strong, every ink will fail.

 

First, any paper that is both laser and ink jet is a compromise....so would expect a woolly line at least in the Ink Jet ink has to be quickly absorbed into the paper. Pure laser is better.

The more rag one has is bad for feathering and woolly lines. 25% is fine, 50 or 100% is too absorbent and the clean line is lost; often feathering and woolly lines.......from other tests.

 

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Start with Southworth 90g/24 lb, Ivory Granite & Ivory Parchment….turns out to be sister papers, no big difference between granite and parchment.

 

The only crème I could grab quick is Gmund 170g a near perfect paper...the same in 120**, is a bit more perfect. And M&K typewriter paper 95 g/ 25 1/2 pounds in white, with watermark.

 

**(I do have a large scribble of the ink on both gramages; where I have some 14-17 green ink scribbles on those two papers, the Gmund 170&120g….

 

The Olivine in Semi-flex is my second darkest green ink after the almost black….MB Winter Forest which was done with a semi-flex M.

There was very little room, in I’d put 35-40 inks scribbles on the page….needed more inks than just the 14-17 greens. In fact the greens were the late comers.

So I did get a good look at this greenish ink, compared to others and many more classic green. The 215’s regular flex M nib was a much lighter….still somewhat grayed as olive green compared to the green-green inks.

 

The Semi-flex OB was dark, I guess the olive was slowly turning black.

 

The regular flex Pelikan 125 M, looks pretty ‘olive’ to me…but there are first class greener olives and second class greenish olives in jars/cans and in the shop stands. (Could be also where the olive is from, Spain, Italy, and Turkey.) It looks more greenish olive than green olive.

 

But will only take the honking big magnifying glass to the newer 170 sheet that now only has Lamy and Pelikan BB on it besides the Olivine.

I’ve done a Geha 760 OB semi-flex …which as expected was darker than the regular flex M of my 215. As mentioned a very dark green, hardly any olive if…..

 

There was no feathering on any of the papers….there was tads of woolly lines. Not heavy woolly.

 

Southworth Ivory Granite, a so so paper it now appears. NEF….no wooly line in the OB semi-flex nib, a slight tad in the M nib. Under glass… MagF there is a slight bit of woolly line with the OB, no more with the M than when just held near the eye. Not much shading, more in the semi-flex OB nib.

 

Southworth Ivory Parchment. A tad more woolly line, near eye and under glass very similar to its sister paper. A tad more under glass. The same for shading.

 

The White 95 g, M&K a German typewriter paper is also laser/ink jet. The OB leaves a tad cleaner line near eye and under glass. Is a better paper than the Southworth. Better shading with the semi-flex OB…little to very little shading with the M nib. I would have expected more shading from a regular flex M. ('Normally, for me, M&F in regular flex being dryer, give better shading, unless the semi-flex has been well matched in paper and ink.(

 

Gmund 170 G, The semi-flex OB is a clean line, real good shading. The regular flex a good enough line, have to look hard to see touches of a woolly line on some letters. Takes the glass to get nit-picky. Not as much shading with the M, but some.

 

Have a real slick white paper....Avery Zweckform 120 g glossy Laser paper.

There is a color shift, perhaps more of the blue coming out…sort of blaa’s out a bit; more than just a bit.

I like the color on the Gmund and M&K paper better. (even the Southworth papers too.) Both the semi-flex OB, and the regular flex M, have clean lines and good shading...a bit more with the wider wetter nib.

That the wider wetter nib shaded better I’d not expected.

 

(Have to try GvFC Moss Green, on the 120-170g, sample papers, to add it to the tested ones. It should be darker than Olivine in a wide semi-flex Oblique & have to do a F or M in regular flex also....

Will do that when I do the Pelikan dark green.)...there I was with only 5-6 pens inked.....and suddenly I'm back to my normal 17 pens inked. )

Edited April 21, 2018 by Bo Bo Olson

[Ayami_109]

Once again an excellent review. I love the handwritten part. However I am not too excited about this ink now, mainly because I thought it would be a little more colourfast, like the Smokey Quartz. But nope, this ink seems to be a runner under water.

 

Btw, does anyone have a comparison of the Olivine against Diamine Green Black?

[lapis]

Btw, does anyone have a comparison of the Olivine against Diamine Green Black?

 

Funny... actually not all that hilarious... funny -- of all things -- that I didn't think of that one myself...

... well, these two colours are amazingly similar, at least in regard to intensity and shading. What Diamine's Green/Black offers in black, Olivine does it in brown.

 

[Ayami_109]

Funny... actually not all that hilarious... funny -- of all things -- that I didn't think of that one myself...

... well, these two colours are amazingly similar, at least in regard to intensity and shading. What Diamine's Green/Black offers in black, Olivine does it in brown.

 

Thanks so much for the comparison! The two inks do look similar in many ways. I've a bottle of the Green Black in my collection and I think it's sufficient enough to give the olivine a pass.

[Quadratus]

I have not yet tried this interesting ink, but it is so dark green that it reminds me of the Sailor Miruai (sea weed ink) which is a wonderfully deep and interesting colour.

I have seen some FPN commentators refer to the Sailor Épinard, which I believe was the “ancestor” of the Miruai. So perhaps I am not alone in drawing the comparison.

[Bo Bo Olson]

I went to my B&M to see if they had the 200 Ruby Star....didn't, sold it on Saturday, so I ordered it in B, and bought a bottle of both Olivine and Smokey Quartz.

I do have most of both, but got replacement's while they were still there.

I was more disappointed by the non-shading 4001 dark green**, than by the Olivine. And Olivine is not as dark as GvFC Moss Green; nor as dull as 4001 dark green.

 

** Good thing I still have most of a bottle of 4001 Brilliant Green.

[Honeybadgers]

Bo bo, you bought a new pen?

 

Quick, someone check for fire, brimstone and the four horsemen.

Edited December 11, 2019 by Honeybadgers

[DilettanteG]

Awesome review! I just ordered a bottle to match my M400 white tortoise set.

 

I love that you included gemstones.

[Bo Bo Olson]

Racing at break neck speed down a narrow canyon, the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse were not chasing Sam; Elena was coming. Death pulled back his cowl, being the only one of the four who could not be accused of looking cross eyed at Elena, turned his skull 180 degrees on his skeleton neck. With chattering teeth, he cried in fear, “Faster, she’s gaining.” ****

 

It's Germany, so it's raining; no fire.....dull rain; no thunder or lightening....so no brimstone..

..I bought the marbled brown last year.....Well, there was that 11.6 earthquake in Atlantis; shortly thereafter.

Hummm, better go buy some snowchains........no, need some snowshoes; the coming blizzard will leave snow will be too deep to drive.

 

 

*****Some day when I finish that four book western saga; that blurb will be to catch the agent and the editor's eye.

Edited December 14, 2019 by Bo Bo Olson

[lapis]

Dippin' yer pen in the tea again, eh? And what was in the tea... snow?