Wing Sung 601. A Real Vacumatic, Modern Parker 51?

[penzel_washinkton]

 

Can someone ask bobby if it's a #5 or #6? if it's a #6, that price is kind of incredible and I'm buying one. Might even if it's a #5.

I would believe that it is a #5 nib based on the body to nib ratio from the picture

[LiquidInk]

I can send him a pm on alibaba, but I'm not good with the terminology... I was going to just ask if nib was #5 or #6 but is there a better way to word it?

Edited June 16, 2020 by LiquidInk

[Honeybadgers]

Bobby speaks english just fine and is a collector himself, so he should understand if you ask him if the nib in it is a #5 or #6.

[djenner]

A couple thoughts on cleaning & reassembling P51s.  First, if you think a P51 is difficult, I'm sure some of you have had the joy of clearing a P61.  Second, I've generally found, with both my vac and aerometric models, paper towel is a good friend.  as you get the sense the old ink is diminished, hold the nib (gently...) in a couple folds of paper towel as you expel the water.  Anent the disassembly and reassembly, I would imagine consulting a P51 repair guide would be useful; I used Dubiel (Fountain Pens the Complete guide to repair and restoration; I lived two blocks away from Fountain Pen Hospital...).  Dubiel recommends rubber cement for fixing the location of the collector; I have found a tiny bit of (commonly candle) wax also worked.

 

One of the joys of the new P51 is that the screw on cap will not deform the shell as did the old friction caps; I assume this is also true for the various Chinese implementations (...).  I also hope the finicky business of adjusting the point of the shell to rest on the nib (not easy, and also a problem, mutatis mutandis, for other Parker designs of that era, e.g. the 65) doesn't obtain.

 

finally, I logged in here to get a sense of what the community thought of Chinese pens as they are now.  On balance, it seems reasonably to acquire a selection of them to play with and so on; one can do that nicely for chump change, and playing with pens is not a bad thing when one is restricted by the current pandemic?

[Estycollector]

12 hours ago, djenner said:

 

 

finally, I logged in here to get a sense of what the community thought of Chinese pens as they are now.  On balance, it seems reasonably to acquire a selection of them to play with and so on; one can do that nicely for chump change, and playing with pens is not a bad thing when one is restricted by the current pandemic?

I've had three Wing Sung 601 pens and gave two away to a friend and a granddaughter. I kept the "flighter" type and have been using  it for a couple of years. I had a problem with it burping ink a couple of times and blame it on myself. Otherwise, it functions just as well and my two 1942 Parker 51's. 

[Karmachanic]

15 hours ago, djenner said:

I logged in here to get a sense of what the community thought of Chinese pens as they are now. 

 

This is a Wing Sung 601 thread.  More views on this particular pen:

 

 

[MissCellany]

I tried this pen twice, and both were incredibly leaky. Real sad about it because I love the idea of the pen. Maybe it was just a fluke for me?

[Karmachanic]

45 minutes ago, MissCellany said:

I tried this pen twice, and both were incredibly leaky.

 

It would be helpful if you could you be more descriptive.

[Dip n Scratch]

As a matter of course I remove the piston of my 601 and smear a little silicone grease on the 'O' rings. Makes the piston work a lot smoother & may also improve the seal.

If you have the piston variant the pen can only leak if outside air is getting into the ink reservoir. Which may be past the O rings.

I never had a diaphragm type 601.

[Estycollector]

I was taught to depress the plunger on Parker 51's, remove, and then release. I do this on the Wing Sung 601 after it leaked. I've not had the problem in a long time. 

[Honeybadgers]

For some reason I have just found that a lot of hooded nib pens have this problem. Even both of my lamy 2000's do it if I don't draw a tiny bit of air after I fill it. The feeds being shielded are just too full and they drip for a weirdly long amount of time. But if you fill it 95% of the way and just make sure it "sucks" up a little air at the end, it shouldn't ever leak.

[Estycollector]

15 hours ago, Honeybadgers said:

For some reason I have just found that a lot of hooded nib pens have this problem. Even both of my lamy 2000's do it if I don't draw a tiny bit of air after I fill it. The feeds being shielded are just too full and they drip for a weirdly long amount of time. But if you fill it 95% of the way and just make sure it "sucks" up a little air at the end, it shouldn't ever leak.

I have a mid '50's Sheaffer Crest lever fill with a two tone Triumph nib that writes dry or doesn't lay down much ink. I've tried doing the same as you are saying, but it doesn't help. I know it is not a hooded type. Perhaps they were just made to be ink sparing.