Lamy 2018 Special Edition Colours Leaked

[Flippy]

Meh, I may or may not give the all black a try, depending on my real-life impression on it once it comes over here.

[wastelanded]

Way to push the envelope there, Lamy.

[LizB]

Personally, I am really pleased they are re-releasing the white Joy.

[Inksomnia]

Personally, I am really pleased they are re-releasing the white Joy.

I'm too! White is nice color for pen, because it "matches" with every ink color I like to draw, so longer pen feels more like brush. I also don't have any Lamy italic nibs, so this is great time to get them.

[ParkerDuofold]

Way to push the envelope there, Lamy.

 

 

- Anthony

[littlepen]

The new Petrol Lamy studio is much nicer in real life than the pictures show . ( The pen shop had one on display)

[Intensity]

Do you mean "Imperial Blue" Studio? Or are they making an actual Petrol color?

[littlepen]

On the Lamy site its called racing green but its more the colour of the petrol safari.

Edited December 31, 2017 by littlepen

[Intensity]

On the Lamy site its called racing green but its more the colour of the petrol safari.

Ah ok, I was wondering if it was going to be a new color. Racing Green is more green than Petrol ("teal")

[anemography]

I'm another who's planning to wait until I see the black in person before deciding whether to buy it or not.

[HDoug]

Lamy Russia reposted my pic of my Charcoal Safari and there was a huge argument on whether it was black or brown. To my eyes always and right now it looks black. Like charcoal. Unless charcoal looks brown to you, maybe. Anyway, if there's a dif, I would like to see it in person...

 

Doug

[Intensity]

That photo above? Looks decidedly not brown. Very dark gray maybe with some indeterminate (due to illumination and photo quality, and white balance can be tough in these cases) tint, but not "brown".

Edited January 7, 2018 by Intensity

[Astronymus]

The Safari Umbra has a greyish-brownish tone. That's a fact on all planets. The perception may differ by lighting, but it is still its color by definition.

On the (post-edited) photo above you can see that the black ring and black the clip are blacker than the "black" pen. Because the pen isn't black. On my Eizo I can still see the brownish tone in this picture. Unless you use a calibrated or high-end DTP screen and profiled data you can not trust any color on the internet. Use a color picker on the picture if you don't believe me.

The 2018 edition will be completely "real" black.

Edited January 7, 2018 by Astron

[Glenn-SC]

That photo above? Looks decidedly not brown. Very dark gray maybe with some indeterminate (due to illumination and photo quality, and white balance can be tough in these cases) tint, but not "brown".

 

 

 

The Safari Umbra has a greyish-brownish tone. That's a fact on all planets.

 

 

I agree 100 % with Intensity. I have yet to get a new photo hosting account, but pictures of my Charcoal Safari would show that it is as un-Brown as the pen in HDoug's photo.

 

Astron, you can believe what you want, but until I see scientific data that a spectral analysis on a Charcoal pen (not a photo of a pen) reveals whatever the wavelengths of light that produce the perception of "brown" or we get a color specification from Lamy for the plastic used to produce these pens, I will believe my eyes.

 

And yes, the "gloss" black o-ring, clip, and nib look "blacker" than the barrel and cap. But they are "matte" and therefore look different. Are the Cap and Barrel very dark gray? Perhaps. I see no brown in them however.

[Intensity]

A faint warm brownish *tint* to a very dark gray is not the same as actually being "brown" though. That's what I responded to. Semantics, but still. Moreover the photo above says nothing about any tint or lightness of that particular pen: inaccuracy in portrayal is greater than subtlety in actual color (long-term photography background).

[tamiya]

Could we please cease taking photos of Umbra against a red/orange/wooden background... it makes the grey look GREEN to me

 

How about putting your pen on a simple copypaper white background

[Intensity]

Could we please cease taking photos of Umbra against a red/orange/wooden background... it makes the grey look GREEN to me

 

How about putting your pen on a simple copypaper white background

 

Probably a bad idea too: a lot of printer paper is too blue. I have a high quality gray card for white balance and also an X-Rite color checker passport, and that kind of paper invariably is more blue for me than the neutral white/gray when I do post-processing. Having cool-toned white as background would make neutral gray appear warm. Just the caveats of trying to portray hints of color accurately in digital format =/

[Astronymus]

I will believe my eyes.

Scientificly seen your eyes can lie to you. Color perception is hugely dependant on the background and lighting. It's called adaption. Your eyes try to adapt to the surroundings to see colors accurate. Like the white balance on a camera. But our eyes aren't as capable as a camera in that case.

 

Oh, and women are better at this than men. In return we see better in the dark.

 

 

Probably a bad idea too: a lot of printer paper is too blue. I have a high quality gray card for white balance and also an X-Rite color checker passport, and that kind of paper invariably is more blue for me than the neutral white/gray when I do post-processing. Having cool-toned white as background would make neutral gray appear warm. Just the caveats of trying to portray hints of color accurately in digital format =/

True. Too bad I have no X-Rite colorimeter at hand to measure the pen directly. That should end the discussion quite abrupt.

 

 

Edit: Typos!

Edited January 7, 2018 by Astron

[Intensity]

It will probably be put to rest once the new limited edition matte black is available in stores, and both pens could be seen by owners side-by-side.

[LizB]

Not quite an X-rite colour checker, but a Lastolite neutral grey background, shot with flash only (no ambient light) and white balanced to flash temperature. What everyone's monitors make of it is beyond my control.