New Pelikan M200 Brown-Marble Fountain Pen

[alaskazimm]

I cannot write with an oblique nib.

 

I'm with you there

[Bo Bo Olson]

I like vintage semi-flex stub oblique.

Modern '82-now obliques just don't do the trick. There is little to no line variation. Regular flex, semi-nail and nail; do not give the line variation of semi/maxi-semi-flex stubs of the '50-60's era.

 

I think they are only for folks with left eye dominance who will cant the nib to see the top of the nib or left handers.

 

We often had threads on this a while back. I came up with if the nib is a 15 degree grind, post the cap so the clip so it's aligned between the nib slit and the shoulder. If a 30 degree grind, align the clip when posting so it is lined up on the right shoulder of the nib. Aim with the clip.

 

There was problems that a few still had.....Richard came up with not having the paper at 45 degrees, but at 90 or 180.......after that there was seldom a thread of having problems using an oblique.

[Runnin_Ute]

I like vintage semi-flex stub oblique.

Modern '82-now obliques just don't do the trick. There is little to no line variation. Regular flex, semi-nail and nail; do not give the line variation of semi/maxi-semi-flex stubs of the '50-60's era.

 

I think they are only for folks with left eye dominance who will cant the nib to see the top of the nib or left handers.

 

We often had threads on this a while back. I came up with if the nib is a 15 degree grind, post the cap so the clip so it's aligned between the nib slit and the shoulder. If a 30 degree grind, align the clip when posting so it is lined up on the right shoulder of the nib. Aim with the clip.

 

There was problems that a few still had.....Richard came up with not having the paper at 45 degrees, but at 90 or 180.......after that there was seldom a thread of having problems using an oblique.

Not sure if I am left eye dominant, but I find after using it for a while when I first got it, my OB on a W Germany old style M200 (so around late 80's early 90's) it took some getting used to. Now, I write with it nearly as easily as any other pen I have. But Bo Bo is correct, very little line variation.

[Bo Bo Olson]

There was a gray W.Germany 200, OB, in a live auction pen lot..............having trans-mailed a modern 200 OB nib & tried it before, had hopes the slightly more spring to the W. Germany nib would do the trick. It didn't.

 

I am lucky living in Germany.....my first semi-flex a 140 was OB......and I always suggest that width in vintage obliques. The width is such....one can write with it held normal....with a tad of tooth/scratchy, but any degree of cant solves that.

Others like OM or OF require more precise hold in the angle of cant to get the nib flat on the paper.

 

I think OEF to be too narrow to really show a pattern....especially if it's semi-flex or maxi. I came to that conclusion....with a case of sour grapes. I'd won a Geha 790 OEF.....when I got it I found someone had changed nibs, so it was a regular EF......but because it was a Maxi....I decided not to complain. It was not the seller's fault. OEF was marked on the pen.

 

Vintage EF is narrower than modern. After writing with that nib, decided not to chase OEF....for lack of width for a noticeable pattern.....at least for me. I can write tiny.....but have to concentrate, in the vintage nibs is semi-flex or maxi there will be tine spread as is..............of course that is blasphemy to narrow nib lovers. But I find an OF to give me a good pattern.....and I still like the OB's, which are like the B's of that era, writing nibs, not signature nibs of modern day.

 

I have a Mercedes OM.....and I'd not used it in a while, forgot it was oblique....and was reaching for the micro-mesh in it was scratchy....... .......not scratchy....I'd not canted the nib .........something I can just about get away with in OB.

 

There are both 15 & 30 degree grinds...........outside my 30 degree 500 OBBB, which as a signature nib, would have been factory grind, I wonder if the 30 degree grinds were back room work at the fabled Ol'Corner Pen Shoppe. I have seen...or I have not noticed 30 degrees in any info I've seen.

I lucked out....in no one mentions that when selling, OBB, OB, OM and OF in both 15&30 degree grinds.

Oddly, there is no 22 degree grinds, that I have.....so it's not slop from the factory.

[white_lotus]

Against my better judgement, today I ordered the M200 Brown-marbled with medium nib from Indy-pen-dance. I say this because I already have eight modern Pelikans (a mix of M200 and M400) and I don't have enough arms to use them all at once.

[BillH]

Against my better judgement, today I ordered the M200 Brown-marbled with medium nib from Indy-pen-dance. I say this because I already have eight modern Pelikans (a mix of M200 and M400) and I don't have enough arms to use them all at once.

 

 

Sounds like somebody else's rule to me

[chromantic]

I already have eight modern Pelikans and don't have enough arms to use them all at once.

 

[Runnin_Ute]

Against my better judgement, today I ordered the M200 Brown-marbled with medium nib from Indy-pen-dance. I say this because I already have eight modern Pelikans (a mix of M200 and M400) and I don't have enough arms to use them all at once.

Mine is coming from The Writing Desk. Also an M. My other M200's are an F and an OB.

[Bo Bo Olson]

Mine was mailed yesterday....so perhaps on Wednesday.

 

Some time last week, Mauricio mailed me a BCHR 52 from the States....from Arkansas it rested in Kansas for two days, then hung out at Miami Beach for a couple of days. Supposedly, left Miami.....for where....Atlanta, NY, Minnesota, England? ....Germany????????

 

The last time I mailed something to the States it took three weeks to get there....half ship time. Being an old dog, forgot to get tracking numbers....and thought both got lost in a postal workers ebay account.

From previous tracking, it was normally out of Germany in two days.

 

Can't blame the postal workers....got to blame the bosses for not having enough workers.......blame that on Congress, in the USPS is not allowed to bribe Congress like UPS & Fed Ex.

 

Back in the day....and for a while we had no Merchant Marine ships to send mail, it took six weeks to get across the ocean.....three days from California to NY. Eight-nine weeks to get to Japan from SF.

 

Air mail is not gotten that much cheaper....in sea mail is no longer offered.

Edited November 28, 2017 by Bo Bo Olson

[hari317]

Mine was mailed yesterday....so perhaps on Wednesday.

where are you all buying from? I emailed the OP to the email ID on their website about buying one, but it seems the email has been lost somewhere...

Edited November 28, 2017 by hari317

[Bo Bo Olson]

Hari,

They promised to check their EF nibs and get me a good and narrow one.

Normally I don't use EF, but need it for editing. And it will replace the 1745 EF that I use now.

 

I have a Geha 790 EF in maxi, but it might well write to an F in my Hand is still a tad heavy.

Normally I'm not into matching pen color to an ink....but will be using 4001 and do have the brown I've not used in a while....well it's more reddish brown.

 

Fritz Schimpf OHG

Am Schimpfeck (Am Lustnauer Tor 1)

72074 Tübingen

Tel. 07071 51351

Fax 07071 21936

www.fritz-schimpf.de

[Bo Bo Olson]

Checking US mail, Miami Beach returned my 52 back to Kansas City............

US mail is fast...From Arkansas to Kansas City in only one day....after only two days later, it's in Miami....and now two days later half way across the country back to Kansas City......

 

There was someone who traced packages from SF to LA....to Las Vegas, then Reno and it only took three weeks to go from close to the East Coast do deliver in the middle of California.....so it seems par for the course........

 

Can I get frequent flying points for may mail????

 

Do you think UPS and FedEX prevent the US mail from using big Hubs like Atlanta, Dallas, Chicago or NY????

Miami.....

 

My German shipped pen shipped Monday has a Wednesday delivery.

[jkingrph]

Do you think UPS and FedEX prevent the US mail from using big Hubs like Atlanta, Dallas, Chicago or NY????

Miami.....

 

I doubt that! Every time I order from LCdC the order goes through Chicago. Last year an order got hung up in customs there for just over three weeks, just before Christmas. My brown marble has not yet shipped, and I am hoping I do not have a repeat of last year.

 

Living in E. Texas. my mail often goes through the Dallas hub.

Edited November 28, 2017 by jkingrph

[Bo Bo Olson]

My marbled brown 200 came in....and if it appears there is 'bare' brown spots, tilt the pen or turn it over, thy will vanish. It appears quite pearliquest.

The EF nib is narrow, they checked 8 nibs, and a tad 'toothy' which one can expect for such a narrow nib. There is a sound when writing...not singing. I'll worry about it some other year. I asked for thin............

 

I was also give a small sample vile of L'Actisan Brun Ours, a sort of a gray sepia brown....in my EF it of course don't shade this ink as the Ink Reviews show....so will put it into a M or B.

Happened to find a sheet of M&K 95 typing paper...sized on one side only (typing paper was always only sized on the front), and there was a slight bit of shading with the EF nib.

Good to better papers really help an ink.

 

(Any of the three M&K papers are the only Brunner paper worth buying)

Edited November 29, 2017 by Bo Bo Olson

[BillH]

Brown Marble came. Here it is with all the other little marbles in the flock (well, almost )

 

[chromantic]

^^ BillH - Ooh, you have a post-97 grey marble, I'm jealous. But what's the green one between it and the M205?

[Bo Bo Olson]

Bill, a very nice flock of 200's.......... I've only got a W. Germany gray swirled, 215, Amethyst and this Marbled Brown.

 

I do have a hand full of 400's and a mixed hand full of others....so don't have to feed the 200 addiction. Which I can see exists.

[BillH]

^^ BillH - Ooh, you have a post-97 grey marble, I'm jealous. But what's the green one between it and the M205?

 

 

That's the new material Green Marble came in after 2015. Really pops, and I was glad to see the brown is similar. The post-97 Grey was hard to get...

[BillH]

Bill, a very nice flock of 200's.......... I've only got a W. Germany gray swirled, 215, Amethyst and this Marbled Brown.

 

I do have a hand full of 400's and a mixed hand full of others....so don't have to feed the 200 addiction. Which I can see exists.

 

Thank you Bo Bo. Yeah, between M200 and M400 varieties, a guy could get himself in serious trouble We can blame it on The Pelikans Perch though, right? If the Doc hadn't done such a great job, none of us would be hooked, I'm sure of it.

[Bo Bo Olson]

I think I was hooked a bit before that................one '90's tortoise, a 140 OB my first semi-flex....

a third one; 400nn just for nib to put on the first one..............

Look where that 140 led....26 semi-flex and 16 maxi's.......of this and that brand.

Hell, I even have cartridge Pelikans....the first a steel Celebry was a gift of a widow.

My second 140 was a gift also.

 

Being retired I learned a new word.....!@#$%^&*budget. Even so, I never expected to own '50-54 400's (4), much less a 500...........which was so far out of reach, I didn't 'know' it existed....knew of course, but never even over one.

I somegied the 100n..............the Ibis was part of a live auction pen lot....sort of looked at out the corner of my eye..a bennie, but nothing I'd bought stand alone...................don't do as I do....do as I say............buy an Ibis.

 

My 100n is first stage superflex...what I call Easy Full Flex.....and the Ibis is maxi-semi-flex.

The 381&green marbled Celebry are similar but a tad different. They got bought in the Splurge, when my grail pen money burnt a hole in my pocket down on the wharf, and those Pelikans followed me home. ...along with a Pelikan pen stand.

The 120 was a gift from my Mechanic along with a Geha 790...pens he had laying around.

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