Another Esterbrook clone :)

[antoniosz]

Look at this Esterbrook Clone - made in Japan. I love the 2668 Warranted nib.

(from a current auction on ebay - no connection )

http://i22.ebayimg.com/04/i/04/76/90/b0_1.JPGhttp://i19.ebayimg.com/03/i/04/70/81/97_1.JPG

[KCat]

i never realized there were Estie clones. Seems like an odd pen to clone... i mean, it makes more sense to do that with pricey pens and fool people into spending big bucks. But to clone a cheapie like Esterbrooks?

 

oh well.. shows you how little I understand about manufacturing and economics I guess

[Ann Finley]

Antonios, do they say it's an Esterbrook in their auction when these clones are shown?

 

This one is a pretty green!

 

TIA,

Ann

[antoniosz]

No. This seller is usually very laconic in his descriptions, but he(she?) says "No name pen from Japan".

[Elaine]

Yes, the best part of that pen is the nib. I agree with KCat, it's a strange choice of pen to clone. I wonder if Esterbrook had anything to do with it?

[Gerry]

Esterbrook has arrived.... A clone yet.

 

That will be the end of the Esterbrook detractors. If it's good enough to clone, it has graduated from whatever tier Rob would place it to at least a second tier pen...

 

Keith, Brian - let's celebrate the arrival of the Estie to the real pen world.

 

We're now recognized.

 

Gerry

[Brian Anderson]

I've seen a number of esterbrook clones over the years, one of the better looking models was a Japanese pen called Adam. It was a dead ringer in style, but utilized some really funky plastics. Dr. Dutcher had one up for sale a year or so ago.

 

There was also a rash of clones based on the pastel series called "Misterlook" They also had Warranted steel nibs with 2668, 2556, etc. markings on them. Should have bought them when I had the chance. Oh well.

 

Keep in mind Esterbrook was manufacturing large runs of J series pens in the late 1940's into the mid 1950's. Cloning these does make some sense based on an identity factor. There was no mistaking an esterbrook for a parker, and vice versa.

 

Fun stuff AZ, thanks for showing.

 

Best-

Brian

[mhphoto]

On 7/11/2005 at 6:29 PM, Brian Anderson said:

I've seen a number of esterbrook clones over the years, one of the better looking models was a Japanese pen called Adam. It was a dead ringer in style, but utilized some really funky plastics. Dr. Dutcher had one up for sale a year or so ago.

 

There was also a rash of clones based on the pastel series called "Misterlook" They also had Warranted steel nibs with 2668, 2556, etc. markings on them. Should have bought them when I had the chance. Oh well.

 

Keep in mind Esterbrook was manufacturing large runs of J series pens in the late 1940's into the mid 1950's. Cloning these does make some sense based on an identity factor. There was no mistaking an esterbrook for a parker, and vice versa.

 

Fun stuff AZ, thanks for showing.

 

Best-

Brian

Sorry to bug you from 20 years in the future. 
 

I have a Estie J clone. The only imprint it has is on the barrel:

 

“SEA-GULL

FOUNTAIN-PEN”

 

Its shape is very convincing. In fact, I’ve had it for quite some time but only ever stuck it next to a genuine model J tonight. Overall it’s a bit shorter. 
 

The body material is dark blue with—if you can picture it—almost a Waterman woodgrain-esque rippling in the pattern. Definitely not something any real Esterbrook ever had. 
 

HOWEVER… the genuine Esterbrook nib units for perfectly. I immediately installed a 9128 in the weird clone and have been thoroughly enjoying it. 👍

 

Okie dokie, back to the future hellscape of 2025. 🫠

[donnamcm]

Hello, I have two Estie j. Bought just so I could use a wonderful “sketch nib” that was made by osmiroid. Have repaired sacs and levers, but can never get ink in them……I’ve given up. However, I would love to find a modern day pen that would accept my osmiroid nib. Thoughts? TIA.

[InkyProf]

12 hours ago, donnamcm said:

Hello, I have two Estie j. Bought just so I could use a wonderful “sketch nib” that was made by osmiroid. Have repaired sacs and levers, but can never get ink in them……I’ve given up. However, I would love to find a modern day pen that would accept my osmiroid nib. Thoughts? TIA.

The modern Esterbrook brand makes an “MV” adaptor for its “Estie” pens that allows them to use vintage Esterbrook nibs. (It’s a replacement section with an opening threaded to accept the old nib units.) Since the Osmiroid nibs fit into vintage J pens, they might work with those adaptors. Whether the new Esties appeal to you is a different question!

 

There’s also this thread - again, focused on Esterbrook Renew-Points; and also mostly focused on compatibility with other vintage pens rather than new production, but it might be helpful.

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/363473-which-pens-other-than-esterbrook-j-series-do-renew-point-nibs-fit-in-please/

Just one thought about your J pens: have you tried filling them using nibs other than your Osmiroid, just to be sure the problem is with the pen and not the nib unit?

[gweimer1]

6 hours ago, InkyProf said:

The modern Esterbrook brand makes an “MV” adaptor for its “Estie” pens that allows them to use vintage Esterbrook nibs. (It’s a replacement section with an opening threaded to accept the old nib units.) Since the Osmiroid nibs fit into vintage J pens, they might work with those adaptors. Whether the new Esties appeal to you is a different question!

 

I had Shawn Newton turn me one of his Prospector pens, using the MV section.   One of my favorite pens now, it's a cool modern pen that is sporting a really nice 3312 nib.

[InkyProf]

48 minutes ago, gweimer1 said:

it's a cool modern pen that is sporting a really nice 3312 nib

 

Great idea, I bet that barrel looks great with the sunburst. What's the acrylic, if I might ask? 

[donnamcm]

10 hours ago, InkyProf said:

The modern Esterbrook brand makes an “MV” adaptor for its “Estie” pens that allows them to use vintage Esterbrook nibs. (It’s a replacement section with an opening threaded to accept the old nib units.) Since the Osmiroid nibs fit into vintage J pens, they might work with those adaptors. Whether the new Esties appeal to you is a different question!

 

There’s also this thread - again, focused on Esterbrook Renew-Points; and also mostly focused on compatibility with other vintage pens rather than new production, but it might be helpful.

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/363473-which-pens-other-than-esterbrook-j-series-do-renew-point-nibs-fit-in-please/

Just one thought about your J pens: have you tried filling them using nibs other than your Osmiroid, just to be sure the problem is with the pen and not the nib unit?

A wealth of info, thanks. How funny you should mention filling with other nibs to test…….i put the sketch nib into a vintage rapidiograph and tried to fill….nada……I inserted the original rapidiograph nib and filled…joila….the pen has ink……reinserted the sketch nib and yes, I have ink😱. Who knew? Of course, the cap won’t screw tight with the sketch nib, so it dries out later. Damn…….but I have learned a new trick……🙌

[donnamcm]

I’m going to look at modern esties now, thx for the info

[InkyProf]

7 hours ago, donnamcm said:

Of course, the cap won’t screw tight with the sketch nib

Sounds like the inner cap might be making contact with the tip of the sketch nib, so I’d be careful not to try to screw down tightly, lest you bent the nib! Hope you find a solution that works for you, good luck!