Platinum Celluloid Line Suspended

[freakman]

http://www.platinum-pen.co.jp/press_290905.html

It seemed that the lack of raw materials forced them to stop manufacturing. The duration is still unknown.

This might be related to the national environmental inspection held by Ministry of Environmental Protection of PRC that affected all the celluloid factories here in China.

[Berghain54]

Hej freakman,

 

this is actually very interesting!

Thank you very much for sharing this information.

 

Does this mean, that the "precious celluloid" used by Platinum (and which boosts a starter gold-nib pen by at least 300% in price) is the same material used by Kaigelu or Lanbitou?

(If these are actually made out of celluloid).

 

Best regards

Berg

[ehemem]

MB's "pressssssioussssss resssssson" is in no way, shape, or form celluloid....

[Bluey]

The celluloid looks nice but I don't think I will be likely to pay the huge extra cost at any time. I already have a maki-e 3776 anyway, so there is no point in having more than 1 of the same pen.

MB's "pressssssioussssss resssssson" is in no way, shape, or form celluloid....

MBs 'precious resin'(to be fair, it's actually a translation error from German and not an expectedly silly marketing ploy from MB) is otherwise known as 'cheap plastic'.

Edited October 7, 2017 by Bluey

[freakman]

Hej freakman,

 

this is actually very interesting!

Thank you very much for sharing this information.

 

Does this mean, that the "precious celluloid" used by Platinum (and which boosts a starter gold-nib pen by at least 300% in price) is the same material used by Kaigelu or Lanbitou?

(If these are actually made out of celluloid).

 

Best regards

Berg

 

I don't think Kaigelu and Lanbitou use cellulose nitrite in their product. They're just cellulose acetate.

All celluloid were made in China from at least 20 years ago or so. Including the ones used on OMAS. But these factories never sell those celluloid to the public I think.

[WaskiSquirrel]

I'm very sad about this. I love my Platinum Koi. I want to pair it with a Jade, if I ever find one at the same good price. (I got lucky, and paid much less than regular price.)

[fabri00]

I don't think Kaigelu and Lanbitou use cellulose nitrite in their product. They're just cellulose acetate.

All celluloid were made in China from at least 20 years ago or so. Including the ones used on OMAS. But these factories never sell those celluloid to the public I think.

omas celluloid was produced in Italy as far as I know.

Somewhere I have the name of the produccer.

[freakman]

omas celluloid was produced in Italy as far as I know.

Somewhere I have the name of the produccer.

Most of Mazzucchelli's factories are now located in China. And I confirmed from other exhibitors in Canton fair that all the celluloid(cellulose nitrate) products from Daicel and Mazzucchelli were displayed as made in China, the possible manufacturer for Mazzucchelli celluloid is SHANGHAI DA SHEN CELLULOSE PLASTICS CO. LTD listed on their website. There're extremely few celluloid manufacturers at the Canton fair and I had the chance to go to two of their factories but I did not find any active celluloid production line in SHANGHAI DA SHEN plant.

Daicel was the last Japanese celluloid manufacturer and their celluloid production moved to China in 1997, this is recorded officially on their company history. Their plant in Shanghai might be affected by this inspection and it is possible that the manufacturing of celluloid will be completely stopped unless they could introduce another line to met the higher, sometimes unreasonable, new standards.

Platinum was looking for other manufacturers here in China some years ago and I managed to find that factory. They're still manufacturing cellulose acetate and nitrate. I found some of the sample blocks in their warehouse from Platinum's order. But they did not reach an agreement in the end.

The factories made celluloid for Mazzucchelli and Daicel never sell these product under other brands, so I think the quality is still the same. There's no 'magic' in making celluloid. As long as the workers for blending is well trained, it can be produced anywhere.

Edited October 10, 2017 by freakman

[mke]

I have heard that until recently, only two manufactures remained (don't know their names). This production is very dangerous, so ist should not be damned but welcomed that there are better safety standards coming.

[fabri00]

Most of Mazzucchelli's factories are now located in China. And I confirmed from other exhibitors in Canton fair that all the celluloid(cellulose nitrate) products from Daicel and Mazzucchelli were displayed as made in China, the possible manufacturer for Mazzucchelli celluloid is SHANGHAI DA SHEN CELLULOSE PLASTICS CO. LTD listed on their website. There're extremely few celluloid manufacturers at the Canton fair and I had the chance to go to two of their factories but I did not find any active celluloid production line in SHANGHAI DA SHEN plant.

Daicel was the last Japanese celluloid manufacturer and their celluloid production moved to China in 1997, this is recorded officially on their company history. Their plant in Shanghai might be affected by this inspection and it is possible that the manufacturing of celluloid will be completely stopped unless they could introduce another line to met the higher, sometimes unreasonable, new standards.

Platinum was looking for other manufacturers here in China some years ago and I managed to find that factory. They're still manufacturing cellulose acetate and nitrate. I found some of the sample blocks in their warehouse from Platinum's order. But they did not reach an agreement in the end.

The factories made celluloid for Mazzucchelli and Daicel never sell these product under other brands, so I think the quality is still the same. There's no 'magic' in making celluloid. As long as the workers for blending is well trained, it can be produced anywhere.

Yes, i meant Mazzucchelli.

[freakman]

I have heard that until recently, only two manufactures remained (don't know their names). This production is very dangerous, so ist should not be damned but welcomed that there are better safety standards coming.

No, there won't be any new safety standards. There would just be no more manufacturing.