Monteverde Monza - Rebranded Lingmo Lorelei?

[bass1193]

Goulet sold out almost immediately with that great deal going! It would be cool if someone who bought the Monza could do a side-by-side picture with a 992

[jekostas]

Goulet sold out almost immediately with that great deal going! It would be cool if someone who bought the Monza could do a side-by-side picture with a 992

 

There's already a review in the reviews section. It's the same pen.

[Jamerelbe]

Goulet just wound back their claim that the Monza is suitable for eyedropping, when the pen Brian was showing off in last week's Q&A lost the plug in the back of the pen. Which calls into question Monteverde's claim that the quality of their Monza is higher than the Jinhao 992...

[Jamerelbe]

(Check out the latest Q&A, #187, for Brian's sheepish update...)

[k3eax]

(Check out the latest Q&A, #187, for Brian's sheepish update...)

Could you please provide a link?

 

I would like to have been present when Brian's eyedropper Monteverde Monza lost its end-plug!

[Jamerelbe]

If I've got this right, the video should start at the right point in the stream (around 2:20 into the Q&A):

 

https://youtu.be/ChLLG1IYi_k?t=143

[k3eax]

Thanks for the link.

 

I had imagined that the conversion to eyedropper had been a failure whilst in Brian's pocket. In a perverse sort of way, I'm a bit sorry that it did not occur that way ---- it would have been a reminder to him to be a bit more cautious. Now to his credit, Brian did that he will edit the previous Q&A to remove the eyedropper suggestion.

[DanielleE]

 

I had one dry up on me yesterday with Monteverde Horizon Blue in it. I will wash it sometime this weekend and see if it's any better with Waterman Blue Black in it.

[bluebellrose]

 

Sorry, Mr. Ford. I didn't mean to imply that Italix pens are made the PRC. I was referring to the business model of outsourcing/commissioning the pen bodies. My apologies for not making that clear. I love my Parson's Essential. I have seen Nemosine Singularity bodies being sold very cheap (in bulk) on Alibaba, as well as a few other models from various (mostly Chinese) companies (lots of Jinhaos).

 

Incidentally, I have noticed that one of the Xezo Phantom fountain pen models is (with the exception of a different cap band) identical to the Parson's Essential: https://www.xezo.com/writing-instruments/fountain-pens/phantom-fountain-pen

 

To be honest, Xezo was on my radar after a few great reviews, but once I saw that they were using the same pen body as the Parson's Essential, I crossed them off my list. I won't buy their pens because of it. And I'm pretty much ready to do the same thing to Yafa. I bought some Jinhao 992s for $1.50 each (with free shipping), and Yafa is selling them for $16 (the Monza). I got a Baoer 517 for $2.54 (with free shipping), and Yafa is selling them for $40. I think that's shameful. For a company that built its reputation on pens like the Duragraph, Invincia, and All American, I hate this direction they're taking. I don't know if this is a sign of financial trouble or just a money grab, but I don't like it. I withheld judgment after the Baoer 517/Conklin Victory in hopes that it was an experiment or a one-off...but now with the 992/Monza, it seems to be a direction the company is moving toward.

 

I would have a different opinion if these pens were of really great quality. Outsourcing/commissioning makes financial sense if you can't afford the machinery or tooling to manufacture them yourself. But I expect a company like Yafa to be a little more selective with the models they choose. I have a lot of Chinese pens, and many of them are excellent (Kaigelu, Yiren, Wing Sung come quickly to mind). But both these Yafa models are cheaply made and not worth anywhere near the asking prices. The 992/Monza in particular has cracking issues around the plug in the back of the pen (I had mine eyedroppered, and it almost made a big mess).

lol why I researched on here. I didn't want to get a nemosine whose company is based in PA and subscribed to the made in USA platform yet source made in China bodies. For the same price I could get a Platinum Cool.