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[tinta]

This thread continues to be a most enjoyable read. Some gorgeous photos, magnificent nibs.

 

At heart I'm still very much a lover of wide edged nibs, but as (& how) I've been ageing, my usual large cursive script has gotten smaller & smaller. For more than four decades a 400NN Pelikan OBB (1.0 mm) had served me perfectly, as my only daily writer. I got totally used to this fairly wide left oblique nib. This pen is now gone.

Most of this Pelikan's current replacements are fitted with custom ground stubs & cursive italics, in the 0.8mm to 1.1mm.range.

 

Of late, I've been experiencing an ever decreasing ability to control my wider italics nibs. Some days I can barely hold my fountain pens. My writing size, in fact my whole writing style is changing. The wide juicy nibs I so much preferred are no longer practical with my reduced script size. (This fall I'll begin to sell off some of my favourite wide tipped stubs & CIs.on the FPN classifieds.)

 

Someone said: "When life gives you lemons,... then make lemonade". To that end, I've had one of my Sailor 1911-Ms (MS nib) reground to an italic style better suited to my present needs.

 

Mr. Masuyama's 0.6 mm. round-nose CI, pictured below, which at one time I considered to be the narrowest italic I'd use, has now become a practical daily writer.

 

 

This is Mike's own special grind, that starts out as a (1.15 mm.) 14K. Sailor MS nib. At first glance this nib looks much like any standard Sailor music nib. Mike retained much of the tipping's original width on the top of the nib. Then he beveled the sides of the tipping down, to produce an actual writing edge of around 0.6 mm.width. It's a cursive italic nib, with slightly softened corners for a real easy ride on the page.

This nib retains most of the massive tipping material found on a Sailor factory MS nib, including its inherent stiffness, allowing me to press much harder on the paper, without losing capillary action.

Writing with a light hand is an ideal that I'm unable achieve at this point time, or perhaps never. Pressing harder seems to give me a greater sense control over my smaller-sized cursive writing.

 

(Hope no one objects to my posting a reverse engineered Music nib on a "Broad Side" thread.)

István

Edited August 10, 2017 by tinta

[KellyMcJ]

  On 8/10/2017 at 6:05 PM, tinta said:

This thread continues to be a most enjoyable read. Some gorgeous photos, magnificent nibs.

 

At heart I'm still very much a lover of wide edged nibs, but as (& how) I've been ageing, my usual large cursive script has gotten smaller & smaller. For more than four decades a 400NN Pelikan OBB (1.0 mm) had served me perfectly, as my only daily writer. I got totally used to this fairly wide left oblique nib. This pen is now gone.

Most of this Pelikan's current replacements are fitted with custom ground stubs & cursive italics, in the 0.8mm to 1.1mm.range.

 

Of late, I've been experiencing an ever decreasing ability to control my wider italics nibs. Some days I can barely hold my fountain pens. My writing size, in fact my whole writing style is changing. The wide juicy nibs I so much preferred are no longer practical with my reduced script size. (This fall I'll begin to sell off some of my favourite wide tipped stubs & CIs.on the FPN classifieds.)

 

Someone said: "When life gives you lemons,... then make lemonade". To that end, I've had one of my Sailor 1911-Ms (MS nib) reground to an italic style better suited to my present needs.

 

Mr. Masuyama's 0.6 mm. round-nose CI, pictured below, which at one time I considered to be the narrowest italic I'd use, has now become a practical daily writer.

round-nose 1-1.jpg

round-nose 2-1.jpg

This is Mike's own special grind, that starts out as a (1.15 mm.) 14K. Sailor MS nib. At first glance this nib looks much like any standard Sailor music nib. Mike retained much of the tipping's original width on the top of the nib. Then he beveled the sides of the tipping down, to produce an actual writing edge of around 0.6 mm.width. It's a cursive italic nib, with slightly softened corners for a real easy ride on the page.

This nib retains most of the massive tipping material found on a Sailor factory MS nib, including its inherent stiffness, allowing me to press much harder on the paper, without losing capillary action.

Writing with a light hand is an ideal that I'm unable achieve at this point time, or perhaps never. Pressing harder seems to give me a greater sense control over my smaller-sized cursive writing.

 

(Hope no one objects to my posting a reverse engineered Music nib on a "Broad Side" thread.)

István

Tinta that is an amazing nib! I love my 0.6mm stubs, they're some of my favorites. I might have this done some day.

[pankaj]

  On 8/10/2017 at 6:05 PM, tinta said:

This thread continues to be a most enjoyable read. Some gorgeous photos, magnificent nibs.

 

At heart I'm still very much a lover of wide edged nibs, but as (& how) I've been ageing, my usual large cursive script has gotten smaller & smaller. For more than four decades a 400NN Pelikan OBB (1.0 mm) had served me perfectly, as my only daily writer. I got totally used to this fairly wide left oblique nib. This pen is now gone.

Most of this Pelikan's current replacements are fitted with custom ground stubs & cursive italics, in the 0.8mm to 1.1mm.range.

 

Of late, I've been experiencing an ever decreasing ability to control my wider italics nibs. Some days I can barely hold my fountain pens. My writing size, in fact my whole writing style is changing. The wide juicy nibs I so much preferred are no longer practical with my reduced script size. (This fall I'll begin to sell off some of my favourite wide tipped stubs & CIs.on the FPN classifieds.)

 

Someone said: "When life gives you lemons,... then make lemonade". To that end, I've had one of my Sailor 1911-Ms (MS nib) reground to an italic style better suited to my present needs.

 

Mr. Masuyama's 0.6 mm. round-nose CI, pictured below, which at one time I considered to be the narrowest italic I'd use, has now become a practical daily writer.

round-nose 1-1.jpg

round-nose 2-1.jpg

This is Mike's own special grind, that starts out as a (1.15 mm.) 14K. Sailor MS nib. At first glance this nib looks much like any standard Sailor music nib. Mike retained much of the tipping's original width on the top of the nib. Then he beveled the sides of the tipping down, to produce an actual writing edge of around 0.6 mm.width. It's a cursive italic nib, with slightly softened corners for a real easy ride on the page.

This nib retains most of the massive tipping material found on a Sailor factory MS nib, including its inherent stiffness, allowing me to press much harder on the paper, without losing capillary action.

Writing with a light hand is an ideal that I'm unable achieve at this point time, or perhaps never. Pressing harder seems to give me a greater sense control over my smaller-sized cursive writing.

 

(Hope no one objects to my posting a reverse engineered Music nib on a "Broad Side" thread.)

István

Awesome nib, thank you Tinta . I think I'm on the same page. It feels I'm overdone with all those Shovel nibs so endearing so far. Slowly gravitating toward narrower nib, still conflicted tho'. May be age is influencing as a 'sober coach'.

That said, the gorgeous pics and depictions posted here by all the member friends are simply awesome . And they are character spoilers too !! Guess Zaddic is listening

[farmkiti]

I absolutely love stubs. I have several Pelikan M2XX pens that I have added M4XX 14K B nibs to. I then had them reground into stubs, since Pelikan doesn't make stubs anymore. One of my favorites from this bunch is my Aquamarine M205 with an M405 stub nib. My Pelikan stubs are mostly around 1 mm wide, I guess. They were done by various nibmeisters, so the all vary a bit (which I love).

 

Anyway, I just adore the feel and feedback of this nib on just about any kind of quality paper. It also helps shading and sheening inks to do their thing. I currently have it filled with O.S. Aristotle, which shades all OVER the place. The shading I get using this pen/ink combo is amazing.

 

This stub is somewhat unique, to me, in that I can either write very broad, large letters with it, or I can write very delicate, small letters. It seems more versatile than lots of stubs that only seem to write in one size - BIG. Something about the angle of the stub and the way it was ground just makes it a phenomenal nib. It writes from just about any angle I hold it in; it doesn't need a sweet spot; it IS a sweet spot. This one was ground by Classic Fountain Pens; not sure who actually worked on it. They have more than one nibmeister, right? I could say John Mottishaw ground it, but I really don't know who did.

 

I also recently discovered that I like "regular" B nibs. I hadn't previously bought any, thinking they would be boring compared to stubs. On a couple of those Pelikans that I had bought B nibs for, I started piddling around and writing with the B nibs before I was going to have them stubbed. I got tons of shading and sheen with them (using the right inks) and really enjoyed the soft, wet feel of the B nibs on the paper. Even with that new-to-me softer feel of those nibs, I still experienced noticeably different feedback from the two "identical" B nibs. They were anything but boring. I was surprised by how much I liked writing with them. So I left a couple of them as they were and didn't have them stubbed.

 

I keep inks that tend to shade and sheen in all my stubs and B nibs. Why waste a nice, fat nib on some ink that doesn't shade? That's my philosophy, anyway. I just love to write an entire journal page with one color of ink and then hold it up in the light to study the shading across the page. It makes my eyes happy!

Edited August 12, 2017 by farmkiti

[BlkWhiteFilmPix]

  On 8/10/2017 at 6:05 PM, tinta said:

This thread continues to be a most enjoyable read. Some gorgeous photos, magnificent nibs.

 

At heart I'm still very much a lover of wide edged nibs, but as (& how) I've been ageing, my usual large cursive script has gotten smaller & smaller. For more than four decades a 400NN Pelikan OBB (1.0 mm) had served me perfectly, as my only daily writer. I got totally used to this fairly wide left oblique nib. This pen is now gone.

Most of this Pelikan's current replacements are fitted with custom ground stubs & cursive italics, in the 0.8mm to 1.1mm.range.

 

Of late, I've been experiencing an ever decreasing ability to control my wider italics nibs. Some days I can barely hold my fountain pens. My writing size, in fact my whole writing style is changing. The wide juicy nibs I so much preferred are no longer practical with my reduced script size. (This fall I'll begin to sell off some of my favourite wide tipped stubs & CIs.on the FPN classifieds.)

 

Someone said: "When life gives you lemons,... then make lemonade". To that end, I've had one of my Sailor 1911-Ms (MS nib) reground to an italic style better suited to my present needs.

 

Mr. Masuyama's 0.6 mm. round-nose CI, pictured below, which at one time I considered to be the narrowest italic I'd use, has now become a practical daily writer.

round-nose 1-1.jpg

round-nose 2-1.jpg

This is Mike's own special grind, that starts out as a (1.15 mm.) 14K. Sailor MS nib. At first glance this nib looks much like any standard Sailor music nib. Mike retained much of the tipping's original width on the top of the nib. Then he beveled the sides of the tipping down, to produce an actual writing edge of around 0.6 mm.width. It's a cursive italic nib, with slightly softened corners for a real easy ride on the page.

This nib retains most of the massive tipping material found on a Sailor factory MS nib, including its inherent stiffness, allowing me to press much harder on the paper, without losing capillary action.

Writing with a light hand is an ideal that I'm unable achieve at this point time, or perhaps never. Pressing harder seems to give me a greater sense control over my smaller-sized cursive writing.

 

(Hope no one objects to my posting a reverse engineered Music nib on a "Broad Side" thread.)

István

 

 

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[tinta]

  On 8/12/2017 at 3:32 PM, LetterRevivalist said:

 

 

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Thank you for the kind thoughts Bob & wishing you the same.

BTW: Who stubbed your M800's Broad nib?

[BlkWhiteFilmPix]

  On 8/12/2017 at 8:01 PM, tinta said:

Thank you for the kind thoughts Bob & wishing you the same.

BTW: Who stubbed your M800's Broad nib?

 

 

You're welcome, Tinta.

 

The nib came with my M805 Clear Demo, which I inadvertently disassembled by twisting too hard during inking. It's in Hannover being repaired.

 

John Mottishaw ground the M805's to cursive italic, and as I've gravitated toward broader nibs, I like it better than the Medium that came with the M800 Tortoiseshell.

 

John replaced the F in my Montblanc 149 with an O3B, that's how much I like broader nibs.

[tinta]

All but one of my Sailor edged nibs have been ground by John. His work is well worth the extra money. Enjoy!

[mana]

Had to dig up some of the broader nibs I have in my posession after perusing this thread... Here is one of my favorites, a user grade specimen of Pelikan 100N with a flexy BB(?) nib. It leaves a juicy track that is wider than the one from the 1.1mm italic nibs that I have. I actually have two of these, the other being a smidgen wider than the other (can't remember which one this was).

I also have a bunch of other stubs, B/BB nibs in my flock of Pelikan 100Ns and Parker 51s. And a nice flexy Waterman's Ideal 56 with a nice B-BBB nib (IIRC) plus a bunch of more modern italic steel nibs (1.1, 1.5 mm) in rOtring Art Pens etc.

I do not use those as often as I should... or would love to for some reason. I need to change that... it is just too easy for me to regard them as "Safe queens" as I am (still) somewhat of a perfectionist and thus tend to try to preserve the immaculate things as such, often buying several copies of something that happens to be in vogue at that particular moment in time (such as the post WWII Pelikan 100Ns which I have around nine with more homing in as opportunity and funds allow).

During the last decade or so I have had to deal with various issues in life which point out the woeful shortness of our lifespans, and how easily they are cut short, often even without as much as an early warning or announcement. Thus, I have decided to actually start using the things I have collected. They bring me no joy sitting somewhere in a box, albeit safe but also neglected.

[pankaj]

  On 8/15/2017 at 12:15 PM, mana said:

Had to dig up some of the broader nibs I have in my posession after perusing this thread... Here is one of my favorites, a user grade specimen of Pelikan 100N with a flexy BB(?) nib. It leaves a juicy track that is wider than the one from the 1.1mm italic nibs that I have. I actually have two of these, the other being a smidgen wider than the other (can't remember which one this was).

 

I also have a bunch of other stubs, B/BB nibs in my flock of Pelikan 100Ns and Parker 51s. And a nice flexy Waterman's Ideal 56 with a nice B-BBB nib (IIRC) plus a bunch of more modern italic steel nibs (1.1, 1.5 mm) in rOtring Art Pens etc.

 

I do not use those as often as I should... or would love to for some reason. I need to change that... it is just too easy for me to regard them as "Safe queens" as I am (still) somewhat of a perfectionist and thus tend to try to preserve the immaculate things as such, often buying several copies of something that happens to be in vogue at that particular moment in time (such as the post WWII Pelikan 100Ns which I have around nine with more homing in as opportunity and funds allow).

 

During the last decade or so I have had to deal with various issues in life which point out the woeful shortness of our lifespans, and how easily they are cut short, often even without as much as an early warning or announcement. Thus, I have decided to actually start using the things I have collected. They bring me no joy sitting somewhere in a box, albeit safe but also neglected.

Very impressive nibs indeed !

BTW no Queen is safe , not meant to be so. Enjoy all. Life is uncertain : that's the only certainty !

I don't have any, and I drool for that Ideal nib ranging from B to B ++++, but again I doubt if my reckless hand will really be able to control that ?

Don't matter. Appreciate in others that you don't have , an alternate road to wish fulfillment of one's own. Thanks for sharing.

[Namo]

Waterman Super six OBB in an Asa Nauka... a daily writer. If only I knew before how awesome B and over nibs are!!

 

Edited August 17, 2017 by Namo

[Ghost Plane]

Ohhhhhhhh! Now that's my kind of nib!

[Tom Kellie]

  On 8/17/2017 at 2:26 PM, Ghost Plane said:

Ohhhhhhhh! Now that's my kind of nib!

 

 

+1

Tom K.

[amberleadavis]

Pay no attention to the drool.

[SNAK]

This thread has so many yummy eye candies! I've really enjoyed looking through them all. I have a foot definitely on the broad side for writing, although I love my extra extra fines for drawing still. My favourites have been oblique broad nibs but I will happily take any juicy wet broad ones.

 

These are the photos I took today for another thread but I thought they would fit in here as well.

 

 

 

 

Pens:

Nakaya Sumiko Camellia with Flexible OBB nib ground by John Mottishaw

Sailor 1911 Realo Hana Maki-E Camellia with Oblique Music nib ground by Gena at nibs.com

[amberleadavis]

Oh, wow, that red ink is yummy too.

[vojtahlad]

So many thoroughbred pens. But the broad side can be affordable too. Kaweco Sport BB is a monster and the line of the Fountain Pen Revolution 1.0 mm stub (here on Jinhao 599) is also fairly wide. Both are very smooth and juicy nibs.

 

Edited August 18, 2017 by vojtahlad

[Namo]

  On 8/17/2017 at 2:26 PM, Ghost Plane said:

Ohhhhhhhh! Now that's my kind of nib!

  On 8/18/2017 at 4:23 AM, Tom Kellie said:

 

+1

Tom K.

  On 8/18/2017 at 5:39 AM, amberleadavis said:

Pay no attention to the drool.

Writing feels almost like painting, this is pure heaven! Too bad most of my pen accumulation was pre-BroadSide era.

[Ghost Plane]

Better late than never.

[SNAK]

  On 8/18/2017 at 7:46 AM, amberleadavis said:

Oh, wow, that red ink is yummy too.

Thanks! I'd say it's a marriage between Okayama and Oxblood, with a bit of sheeny influence from Wild Strawberry. I am enjoying this ink at the moment.

 

  On 8/18/2017 at 8:34 PM, vojtahlad said:

 

So many thoroughbred pens. But the broad side can be affordable too. Kaweco Sport BB is a monster and the line of the Fountain Pen Revolution 1.0 mm stub (here on Jinhao 599) is also fairly wide. Both are very smooth and juicy nibs.

 

 

I love the look of those juicy lines! From memory my Kaweco BB was on the drier side for the size of the nib. Did you have to do something to the feed on your Kaweco?