Capless Pen To Fit Cross Gel Rolling Ball Refill 0.7Mm

[GNL]

Hello Fellow Pen Lovers,

 

My favorite pen refill in the world is the Cross Gel Rolling Ball (0.7mm). However, I much prefer a capless pen. The two capless pens Cross makes that fit this refill, the Edge and the much-too-thin other one, are both unacceptable to me ergonomically for different reasons.

 

Does anyone make a quality capless pen that will fit this superb refill? I've read that Waterman rollerballs have the same size refill, but I can't find any that are capless.

 

Thanks!

Gary

[qvxb]

Gary,

 

The Cross gel rolling ball refill (0612) works in a Pilot G-2 pen.

[GNL]

I was looking for one I could take into business meetings. Something elegant.

Edited May 25, 2017 by GNL

[usk15]

Pilot G2 Limited

Karas Kustoms Retrakt

[Algester]

depends really as most Cross RBs are also capped pens so your let with an issue if the refill has no protection against drying then looking for a carrier to fit that refill would be moot

assuming that the said refill will fit a G2 body then it opens up a bit of possibilities

Uni-ball Jetstream Prime

Pentel Energel Philography would probably fit the bill

before we start spending on the body first since this will be a capless pen bring the refill outdoors and write every now and then and check if it dries out if it does that will be the issue your future carrier will face with the refill but at least less severe

I personally chose a CdA 849 with a Zebra Emulsion refill thats ben fitted with an adaptor

Edited May 28, 2017 by Algester

[Drone]

Gary,

 

The Cross gel rolling ball refill (0612) works in a Pilot G-2 pen.

 

I'm not familiar with a Cross "(0612)" refill. There are two Cross rollerball refills that look from the shape alone like they might fit into a Pilot G2 :

 

1. 8523, Gel Ink Rolling Ball Refill for Selectip Pens (Black)

 

2. 8910-1, Slim Gel Ink Rollerball Refill for Spire, Click & Classic Century (Black)

 

See here:

 

https://www.cross.com/en/departments/refills/shop-all-pen-and-pencil-refills/by-writing-type/rollerball

 

Probably the P/N 8523 is what you are referring too. Right?

 

I have not tried Cross rollerball refills in a G2, but some other refills that do fit OK in the G2 otherwise, like the superb Pentel EnerGel LR10 refill, have tips that are smaller in diameter than the G2 refill, so they rattle around when you write.

 

For example, I measured the tip diameter of the G2 refill to be 2.48 mm, which matches a Waterman rollerball refill I have handy (I believe the Waterman refill is just a rebranded Schmidt 888/5888 rollerball refill). On the other hand, the Pentel EnerGel LR10 refill has a smaller 2.27 mm tip diameter - which rattles in a G2.

 

Regards, David

[Drone]

Hello Fellow Pen Lovers,

 

My favorite pen refill in the world is the Cross Gel Rolling Ball (0.7mm). However, I much prefer a capless pen. The two capless pens Cross makes that fit this refill, the Edge and the much-too-thin other one, are both unacceptable to me ergonomically for different reasons.

 

Does anyone make a quality capless pen that will fit this superb refill? I've read that Waterman rollerballs have the same size refill, but I can't find any that are capless.

 

Thanks!

Gary

 

Hi Gary,

 

1. Be careful with uncapped rollerball cartridges, they tend to dry out. That's why you see so many rollerball pens with caps. So I'm not sure how the Cross Rollerball refill will hold up in a capless pen.

 

Schmidt in Germany makes a "Capless" rollerball refill that supposedly writes like a rollerball, but like a ballpoint it doesn't dry out. Unfortunately the Schmidt Capless refill is not an exact replacement for either your standard Parker size ballpoint or G2 gel refill. See this page:

 

http://www.schmidttechnology.de/en/schreibgeraete/produkte/tintenminen/c_1_5.htm

 

Right-click the "Product Catalog" link on the right side of the page and download the 32 page .pdf file. Look starting from Page 22.

 

2. If the Cross rollerball refills do fit in a Pilot G2 pen as a poster above suggests, I recommend you skip over the standard G2 pens and get the Pilot G2 Pro model. The Pro version is a bit bigger and has better build quality, yet it is still a relatively light and easy to use pen. Compare the two versions:

 

* Pilot G2 Gel Pen - 0.38 mm - Black $1.98

 

https://www.jetpens.com/Pilot-G2-Gel-Pen-0.38-mm-Black/pd/268

 

* Pilot G2 Pro Gel Pen - 0.7 mm - Gray Body - Black Ink $4.00

 

https://www.jetpens.com/Pilot-G2-Pro-Gel-Pen-0.7-mm-Gray-Body-Black-Ink/pd/7243

 

Best Regards, David

Edited June 2, 2017 by Drone

[Drone]

Confirmed: The Cross standard Gel Rollerball refill for Cross Selectip pens (not the slim version for the Spire, Click & Classic Century pens) fits in Pilot G2 pens. I have tested the Cross refill in the in the standard G2 and G2 Pro version Pilot pens. The fit in the standard Pilot G2 pen was a little tight going in due to the ink canister's diameter, but it did work fine once fitted. The fit in the Pilot G2 Pro was perfect. I consider the Cross Gel Rollerball refill to write as a Medium with a measured line-width of approximately 0.5mm on standard 80g/sqm virgin office-bond paper. The Cross refill writes quite smooth and lays down a dark saturated line. One (arguable) advantage the Pilot refills have over the Cross refills is that they are clear plastic so you can see the ink level, while the Cross refills are are all metal. This matters more with the standard Pilot G2 compared with the G2 Pro as the standard G2 pen has a clear barrel. Details:

 

Cross Gell Rollerball Refill for Selectip Pens, MSRP $7.25
(Note this is NOT the P/N 8910 slim refill.)
P/N 8523 Black
P/N 8521 Blue
P/N 8014 Purple
P/N 8013 Red

Cross P/N 8523 Gel Rollerball Refill Dimensions:
Length: 110.55mm
Length of Ink Canister: 88.40mm
Diameter: 6.33mm
Tip length: 22.25mm
Tip Diameter: 2.47mm

[qvxb]

I'm not familiar with a Cross "(0612)" refill. There are two Cross rollerball refills that look from the shape alone like they might fit into a Pilot G2 :

1. 8523, Gel Ink Rolling Ball Refill for Selectip Pens (Black)

2. 8910-1, Slim Gel Ink Rollerball Refill for Spire, Click & Classic Century (Black)

 

See here:

 

https://www.cross.com/en/departments/refills/shop-all-pen-and-pencil-refills/by-writing-type/rollerball

Probably the P/N 8523 is what you are referring too. Right?

I have not tried Cross rollerball refills in a G2, but some other refills that do fit OK in the G2 otherwise, like the superb Pentel EnerGel LR10 refill, have tips that are smaller in diameter than the G2 refill, so they rattle around when you write.

For example, I measured the tip diameter of the G2 refill to be 2.48 mm, which matches a Waterman rollerball refill I have handy (I believe the Waterman refill is just a rebranded Schmidt 888/5888 rollerball refill). On the other hand, the Pentel EnerGel LR10 refill has a smaller 2.27 mm tip diameter - which rattles in a G2.

Regards, David

David,

 

The 0612 I was referring to was on the Cross refill. I incorrectly assumed it was the part number. It is probably the date of manufacture (June 2012).