Diamine Ancient Copper

[lgsoltek]

I'm not sure what colour I should call this ink: is it red, brown, orange? It's quite pretty, and I love its dark outlining at the edge of the letters. Thank you so much Tas for this sample!

 

I'd say the flow is medium, not too dry, but not very lubricating. It doesn't work very well with flex nibs. I get a lot of railroading.

 

Many have experienced nib crud with this ink (probably with pens that don't seal very well), but in my Pelikan M200 so far I haven't encountered any of that.

 

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Sample

 

[ManofKent]

Nice sample. I've not experienced the reputed 'crud' issues either. I find it a very versatile ink - one of my favourites.

[mwpannell]

Using it in an old Pelikan 120 with no crud at this point. In previous pen--don't recall what at the moment--it did. I like Ancient Copper a lot and appreciate your samples and remarks, especially opinion re flow and lubrication. Lovely hand.

Edited April 28, 2017 by mwpannell

[Tas]

You're more than welcome.

 

Thank you for showing it off so well to everyone.

I sadly remember visvamitra experiencing severe nib crud. I, like you, have not. Ancient Copper lived in my Vac 700 <EF> for over a year and never put a foot wrong. Batch issues perhaps? I daren't speculate.

 

This and Terracotta are my only oranges in use. I have 30ml of Deep Dark Orange which is lovely but quite lary and doesn't come ot to play as often as perhaps it should

[lgsoltek]

You're more than welcome.

 

Thank you for showing it off so well to everyone.

 

I sadly remember visvamitra experiencing severe nib crud. I, like you, have not. Ancient Copper lived in my Vac 700 <EF> for over a year and never put a foot wrong. Batch issues perhaps? I daren't speculate.

 

This and Terracotta are my only oranges in use. I have 30ml of Deep Dark Orange which is lovely but quite lary and doesn't come ot to play as often as perhaps it should

I don't have Terracotta with me for now but I've always thought AC, Terracotta, Brandy Dazzle and SBRE Brown look quite similar.

[Misfit]

I saw no nib crud using Ancient Copper in a Pilot Metropolitan White Tiger fountain pen. The color is hard to define, which makes it that much more interesting.

[knarflj]

I see a fair amount of crud with this ink, but mostly when I'm pausing often to think without capping the pen. I'm not normally a fan of orange, but I love Ancient Copper despite the crud.

 

Oddly, although it behaves like a dream in my Prera - both back when it had its original F nib, and now that I've swapped in a Plumix nib & feed - it doesn't play well at all in my Metro. Have never been able to figure that out.

 

Jenny

[MissChief]

You're more than welcome.

 

Thank you for showing it off so well to everyone.

 

I sadly remember visvamitra experiencing severe nib crud. I, like you, have not. Ancient Copper lived in my Vac 700 <EF> for over a year and never put a foot wrong. Batch issues perhaps? I daren't speculate.

 

This and Terracotta are my only oranges in use. I have 30ml of Deep Dark Orange which is lovely but quite lary and doesn't come ot to play as often as perhaps it should

 

I've used it in a couple of pens and I believe it has more to do with the pen than the ink. When I used Ancient Copper in my Lamy Safari, I ended up with major crud. I now have it in a Jinhao 599 and it's behaving beautifully, no crud whatsoever. The Jinhao seems to seal better than the Lamy and that may have something to do with the issue.

[Carrau]

Always an attractive ink for me-so far haven't had nib creep/crud issues. Richard Binder's comments about creep suggest it is a problem in particular pens with lubricated inks (more of a pen issue than a quality problem with the ink).

[julia239]

I love how Ancient Copper seems to have a 3D effect.

 

And I'm jealous of how great your ink splashes always are!

[thygreyt]

I've had it inked on different pens for the last month or two.

 

It's a sensitive ink dry feeds, but on good feeds it's just great!

[888007888]

I also believe nib crud has to do with the sealing of the pen. Lamy Al Star Copper Orange = crud build up for me. TWSBI 580 AL Orange = no build up. I like the color a lot. Specifically picked up a 30 ml to match my Copper Orange Al Star.

 

I use Autumn Oak in my TWSBI 580 AL Orange. Sometimes Apache Sunsent.

 

I have Terracotta dedicated to one pen, my Montblanc Leonardo da Vinci. Only because I don't have the MB Leo ink and Terracotta is the best match.

[CrispyBacon_87]

I don't have Terracotta with me for now but I've always thought AC, Terracotta, Brandy Dazzle and SBRE Brown look quite similar.

I have ancient copper and terracotta. They're virtually identical.

[Tas]

I have ancient copper and terracotta. They're virtually identical.

 

I find that Terracotta is a lot less saturated

 

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Edited April 29, 2017 by Tas

[lgsoltek]

Depending on pen, paper and wetness these two can look quite similar!

 

[Tas]

Oh that looks mighty fine

[Carrau]

Depending on pen, paper and wetness these two can look quite similar!

 

Comparing these two on this sample, it looks like a saturation difference. Nice examples.

[Misfit]

Lgsoltek, your writing is beautiful, very beautiful.

[TheDutchGuy]

Even after reading all the reviews of this ink that mentioned crud build-up, I just had to have it. It's too beautiful to resist. What an amazing colour! However there do seem to be some drawbacks, so I'll only use it in my TWSBI Eco for the time being. Specifically, unlike every other ink that has been in the Eco, this ink seems to be able to permeate the seal within the section and the nib/feed. Some Eco's crack, mine doesn't. The nib/feed is positioned as it should be. It doesn't leak through, but it's borderline. Strange. A second indication of trouble is that the pen seems to 'burp' occasionally, i.e. in a split second the feed goes from normal to completely saturated, with visible wetness around it. This Eco has never done anything like this before. A _possible_ explanation (read: a wild guess) could be that there's a somewhat volatile component in this ink that builds up a bit of pressure in the rather large ink reservoir of the Eco, perhaps in response to body temperature. It might not happen in normal standard international converters.

 

Anyway, I'll see how it goes. A small amount of trouble can be forgiven with an ink this lovely, but there are limits.

 

 

[TheDutchGuy]

Eco problem solved. Ink was not to blame. Love this ink! So nice.