Waterproof Ink That Doesn't Creep? (In A Pilot Metropolitan F)

[Yarn-Yogini]

So I've been playing around with a few different inks in my Pilot Metropolitan with a F nib.

 

I really love the nib for being able to write in tight spaces, but I am travelling to a monsoon region during monsoon season.

 

This means I must have a waterproof ink, as I'll be writing pages and pages and I want to be sure I don't lose them in a downpour.

 

So far I have loved the way the my Pilot behaves with Diamine and J. Herbin inks - nice fine line and amazing flow (I'd say the J.Herbin is the winner in that comparison)

 

BUT

when I use a waterproof ink, the line is suddenly double the thickness and the ink creeps all over the place.

I've tried Noodler's Heart of Darkness and La Reine Mauve, as well as Rohrer and Klingner's Dokumentus in Hellblau

 

Before I invest in another bottle or a riot of samples, I thought I'd see what everyone over here has to say on the matter.

 

Have you had any success with specific inks that are waterproof while still keeping a fine line?

I'd love to get rid of the nib creep too, but the line thickness is more important, as I'll be marking up texts and making notes on my own notes in the margins pretty regularly.

 

 

[sciumbasci]

ESSRI ink, or Diamine Registrar's

[Kowal1623]

Hi. Maybe try iron gall inks from KWZ Ink?

[ac12]

You need to adjust the nib to write dryer.

Less ink on the paper = less feathering.

 

You may also have to find a paper that is less absorbent, so it won't absorb the ink and spread the ink (feathering).

[ehemem]

You might want to try plain old Noodler's Black.

[Witsius]

Noodler's Black should fit the bill. Were I in your shoes, that's the ink I would go with. (P.S. I've got my M200 loaded with it right now.)

[Yarn-Yogini]

ESSRI ink, or Diamine Registrar's

 

Sorry, but what is ESSRI?

[dcwaites]

 

Sorry, but what is ESSRI?

 

Ecclesiastical Stationery Supplies Registrar's Ink.

 

Other well-behaved waterproof inks (once dry, of course) --

Pilot Blue, Black and Blue-Black

Blackstone Barrister Black and Barrister Blue

Koh-i-noor Document Black and Document Blue

the above-mentioned Noodler's Black (which is very similar to HOD, but less wet

Sailor Kiwaguro Black and Sei-Boku Blue-Black.

 

The cheapest are the Koh-i-noor inks at about $5 per 50ml bottle, with free shipping.

[Yarn-Yogini]

Hi. Maybe try iron gall inks from KWZ Ink?

Oh I didn't know about them.

I just stumbled upon the Platinum IG inks yesterday, so many inks! ahhhhh!

I love that KWZ Turquoise (first time I've seen an IG turquoise and I love that colour!)

 

http://kwzink.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/1107C.png

[Yarn-Yogini]

You need to adjust the nib to write dryer.

Less ink on the paper = less feathering.

 

You may also have to find a paper that is less absorbent, so it won't absorb the ink and spread the ink (feathering).

 

Well it writes fine if I am not using the inks I mentioned. I've used a dozen different Diamines and a few J.Herbin without issue - so I really don't want to start tinking with a nib that seems perfectly tuned.

 

I have had no issue of feathering - just a super juicy very fat line - as in it writes like a European M not a Japanese F

[Yarn-Yogini]

You might want to try plain old Noodler's Black.

 

Have you tried the Noodler's Heart of Darkness? Just wondering what the difference would be.

If either of you haven't and would be up for some sample swapping, send me a PM and let me know!

[Yarn-Yogini]

 

Ecclesiastical Stationery Supplies Registrar's Ink.

 

Other well-behaved waterproof inks (once dry, of course) --

Pilot Blue, Black and Blue-Black

Blackstone Barrister Black and Barrister Blue

Koh-i-noor Document Black and Document Blue

the above-mentioned Noodler's Black (which is very similar to HOD, but less wet

Sailor Kiwaguro Black and Sei-Boku Blue-Black.

 

The cheapest are the Koh-i-noor inks at about $5 per 50ml bottle, with free shipping.

 

Thanks very much!

 

I jumped on the $5/bottle but found out quickly that that Koh-i-noor charges 20 euro to ship to Canada, so I had 7 euro in product but a 20 in shipping

 

Have you had any experience with the Sailor nano-pigment inks, "Storia"?

[dcwaites]

 

Thanks very much!

 

I jumped on the $5/bottle but found out quickly that that Koh-i-noor charges 20 euro to ship to Canada, so I had 7 euro in product but a 20 in shipping

 

Have you had any experience with the Sailor nano-pigment inks, "Storia"?

 

I bought my Koh-i-noor ink from this ebay vendor --

 

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/331675587633?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&var=540805017145&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

 

They have free shipping. Make sure you choose the Document Blue or Document Black for the permanent versions.

 

And no, I haven't tried the Storia inks yet, only the two Sailor inks I mentioned.

 

The Noodler's Black and Heart of Darkness are very similar inks, but the HOD is much wetter (and bleeds and feathers more than the standard Black). I use the standard Black in wetter pens and HOD in drier pens, so that the ink behaviour complements the pen behaviour.

Edited April 26, 2017 by dcwaites

[Arkanabar]

I recommend an iron-gall ink. They tend to write dry, but they also have tight lines that are waterproof, even on bad paper. Some exemplars:

 

R&K Salix

R&K Scabiosa

Pelikan 4001 Blue-Black

Diamine Registrar's Ink

Ecclesiastical Stationery Supplies Registrar's Ink

any KWZ Iron-gall ink

any of Platinum's "Classic" line of iron-gall inks

 

And nano-pigment inks also tend to fit the bill, e.g., Sailor Sei-Boku, Kiwa-Guro, and various Storia inks; Platinum Carbon Black

 

Noodler's Red-Black does really well by me, with minimal or no feathering on typical cheap copy/print paper from my Pelikan M200 (a wet writer). The red will run when wet, but the black won't.

[lordofnumpties]

+1 for Registrar's Ink. Been using it in my F Metropolitan and Parker 45 for months. As a student, I have to write on all sorts of paper. Never had any issues.

EDIT: and I live in the monsoon region, in all seasons. Again, no problems ever. I'd trust the English to make an ink fit for the clergy to write in damp basements in a rainy country.

Edited April 26, 2017 by lordofnumpties

[Yarn-Yogini]

+1 for Registrar's Ink. Been using it in my F Metropolitan and Parker 45 for months. As a student, I have to write on all sorts of paper. Never had any issues.

 

EDIT: and I live in the monsoon region, in all seasons. Again, no problems ever. I'd trust the English to make an ink fit for the clergy to write in damp basements in a rainy country.

 

Well that's good to know!

I am really hoping to find others to use besides black. If I'm writing on notes, I want my own additions to stand out.

[displacermoose]

R&K Scabiosa is a lovely dry waterproof purple. If you're feeling adventurous you could try Noodlers Kung Re Cheng. It can be... difficult, but with the right pen and a drop of Photoflo you've got a gorgeous indigo that will survive the apocalypse.

[antichresis]

I would avoid Noodler's Kung Te-Cheng in the <F> Metro. Misbehaved on mine. It's working well in a <M> 78G right now.

[antichresis]

 

I bought my Koh-i-noor ink from this ebay vendor --

 

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/331675587633?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&var=540805017145&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

 

They have free shipping. Make sure you choose the Document Blue or Document Black for the permanent versions.

 

And no, I haven't tried the Storia inks yet, only the two Sailor inks I mentioned.

 

The Noodler's Black and Heart of Darkness are very similar inks, but the HOD is much wetter (and bleeds and feathers more than the standard Black). I use the standard Black in wetter pens and HOD in drier pens, so that the ink behaviour complements the pen behaviour.

I've used this vendor as well to get KIN but the shipment didn't arrive after 80+ days. Might be a problem with the local post office/customs but this is the first time I've had a shipment not arriving. They promptly refunded though so there's that.

[Yarn-Yogini]

I've used this vendor as well to get KIN but the shipment didn't arrive after 80+ days. Might be a problem with the local post office/customs but this is the first time I've had a shipment not arriving. They promptly refunded though so there's that.

 

DOH! Well here's hoping mine arrives faster than that! I just ordered from them over the weekend. I figure $5 was worth taking the chance.

 

Thanks for the input on the Kung-te-cheng too. I have been eyeing that ink for a while because of the stunning colour. Seems I'll just have to get another pen (DARN!) if I want that one