Parker Victory Barrel Insrcription's

[Ricky2011]

Just found another grey MKII heavily discoured though but still no burgundy..

 

Anyone seen a burgundy MKII (parkercollector/victories)...

[PaulS]

nope - don't think so Ricky - at least not in Mk. II guise - but re this colour, see below.

having been absent from this thread for some time, I doubt that I can contribute anything new but thought it might be of interest to show again the 'solid colours' of what are possibly all Mk. IV pens from the period 1948 to 1952. These five examples are all A/F pens with two cap bands, and the absence of a ball end to the clip. I could be wrong about the Mk., so shout if that's the case.

Am posting the attached picture as it includes a recent addition in the way of what the seller described as a 'brown' pen, though I suspect it's probably nearer to what Parker called Dark Burgundy - it's the bottom pen in the picture, and the others are black, grey, dark blue and green.

Unfortunately, the Duofold Book doesn't include any images of Dark Burgundy (correct me if I'm wrong), so to some extend I'm guessing, and have lightened the picture a tad otherwise some of these solid dark colours are difficult to show and differentiate on the screen.

In reality the pen is a little darker than what you see - unfortunately, it lacks a nib, and I knew this at the time I bought the pen. The barrel carries a date code of figure 1, which believe indicates 1951.

This 'Dark Burgundy' appears unrelated to the ever popular, earlier Duofold colour of 'light and dark burgundy, which has a more pink/rose appearance - and it's nothing like the 'red' of the Mk. V Victory aeros. I've a couple of Newhaven New Style double jewelled Duofolds from the late '40s, the colour of which make you think of milk chocolate (a real brown), so no colour connection there.

So, Dark Burgundy it looks to be, and would suggest a less than common colour. Comments appreciated - good or bad.

Edited September 27, 2018 by PaulS

[Ricky2011]

Thanks Paul.

 

According to tonys parker collector

The MKII, III, Iv & V all came in Blue, Green Grey, Black & burgundy (Esentially red)...

 

Have seen MKII's in Blue, grren, Grey & Black

MKIII- Blue, Green, Grey & Black (mostly from @Adamon's postings ) & All five of the MK iv (4)

 

Yet no burgundy in MKII & MKIII

[mitto]

Unfortunately things don't always go as per book. Was there a forest green in the AF Duofold? The book doesn't list it. But here is one in dark (Forest) Green colour.

 

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[PaulS]

thanks to both of you for replies.

with the greatest of respect to T.F., who has doubtless forgotten more about f.ps. than I shall ever know - his use of the word 'burgundy' as one of the Newhaven Mk. V aero Victory colours, is misleading. The four completely new solid colours for the Newhaven aero pens include what I'd suggest is a real red - and not burgundy which can be seen as the very dark wine of the pen in post 62 above, a colour which seems to be much less common than the other solid colours of Mk. II, III and IV b.f. Victories. Quite why burgundy has so far failed to turn up in Mk. II and III - as mentioned by Ricky - is unclear, though extreme rarity is a possibility.

I think it's worth remembering to make this distinction between burgundy and red, and to refer to 'red' when speaking of Mk. V Victory aeros, and burgundy when referring to the earlier Mks.

I agree, colours depicted in the books are unreliable - more the fault of printing than authors - some of those for the P51 in particular being misleading.

Can I detect a hint of blue in mitto's green? - it doesn't quite have the green of a forest as in the green in the Mk. IV Victory above - but then I can't see mention in the book of Forest Green for Duofold.

Penol in Denmark produced Duofolds in apple green which don't think I've seen, and terracotta. We need someone to post good pix showing all of the greens and reds/burgundy's.

Edited October 7, 2018 by PaulS

[mitto]

Not a blue. You see the difference in shade with the green of Victory mk-iv of yours just because of the light reflection. Or probably because of different light settings.

Edited October 7, 2018 by mitto

[PaulS]

then I stand corrected, thanks

[peterg]

Yet another imprint on a black MkIV Victory:

 

PARKER DUOFOLD

REG T.M.

MADE IN ENGLAND

 

As others have mentioned, it has a nib marked '20' which I think is one of the later Duofold nibs, but I could easily be wrong.

 

I believe it was a 'Friday afternoon' pen!

[Driften]

Very cool thread with some nice pens. Good it go popped back to the top.

[peterg]

Yet another imprint on a black MkIV Victory:

 

PARKER DUOFOLD

REG T.M.

MADE IN ENGLAND

 

As others have mentioned, it has a nib marked '20' which I think is one of the later Duofold nibs, but I could easily be wrong.

 

I believe it was a 'Friday afternoon' pen!

Three seemingly identical pens!

[Ricky2011]

nice mkiv @peterg

 

just added to my collection two lovely MKI's.... My MKII's now stand at 15 ( 4 Black; 4 blue, 5 green and 2 grey.)