P45 White Gold Nibs?

[mitto]

Did Parker ever produce white gold nibs especially for the P45s? I have a few that are white and hallmarked 14k and 10k.

 

 

 

The light dusty/yellowish shade is because of bad light. The nib is almost white but not as shiny as steel. I have a few more like this both 14k and 10k.

Edited February 27, 2017 by mitto

[Chrissy]

They aren't white gold, but they can be paler in colour. 10K ones would naturally be paler in colour as they contain less gold. I have a pale 10k one.

[mitto]

I understand. But this 14k is paler than even the 10k. It looks, in fact, so close to white that one would take it for a steel nib until one sees the marking.

[Slimfish]

mitto,

 

I have been collecting rare P45's for the last 22 years.

 

Would humbly say I am an expert at these pens.

 

Never seen a 10k nib or a 'white' gold one.

 

Neither were ever Newhaven produced - they never made prototypes of this type of gold either.

 

Can you post a photograph of the 10k nib.

 

I suspect both are USA versions - experimental.....possibly

[corgicoupe]

If I'm remembering my nonferrous metallurgy correctly, gold alloys are primarily gold, copper, and nickel. 14K is about 0.585. Adding copper moves it towards rose gold, adding nickel moves it toward white gold, while keeping the gold content at 0.585. Other alloy elements can be added to get green gold or other variations. But 14K remains 14K.

Edited February 28, 2017 by corgicoupe

[mitto]

I assume you meant to say 585 and not 575. The question is whether such white gold nibs are common for the P45?

[mitto]

A comparison picture for further considerations. Lolz.

 

 

 

 

From left to right:

 

1) 10k USA yellow gold nib, 14k USA white gold nib and 14k USA yellow gold nib.

 

2) All three 14k England R, D and S yellow gold nibs.

 

Further comments would be highly appreciated.

 

Regards.

[mitto]

Another much clearer picture of the white gold 14k USA nib.

 

 

 

As can be seen it is not just pale yellow. It looks clear white. The dusty shade in the earlier pictures is because of shade/bad light (thick clouds are totally covering the sky here for the last two days). Another thing of interest is the one sided square cut at the start of the slit in the nib. I have a few more such clear white 14k and 10k nibs but can't rummage around for them right now.

 

Edited for correcting typos.

Edited February 28, 2017 by mitto

[corgicoupe]

I assume you meant to say 585 and not 575. The question is whether such white gold nibs are common for the P45?

Yes... Corrected.

[the_gasman]

Khan, I am, as always, thoroughly enjoying your insightful contributions to FPN although I can't contribute anything worthwhile.

 

I am intrigued to notice the variation of the length of the nib-slits; I had always assumed that P45 nib-slits extended to the breather hole but 4 of the 6 in the photo don't reach that far. I must pay more attention in future, and shall now scuttle off to examine my 45 nibs.

 

Also, I have never noticed a wider spaced gap at the non-tip end of the nib (I'm not sure what to call it).

 

Cheers,

David.

[mitto]

Khan, I am, as always, thoroughly enjoying your insightful contributions to FPN although I can't contribute anything worthwhile.

 

I am intrigued to notice the variation of the length of the nib-slits; I had always assumed that P45 nib-slits extended to the breather hole but 4 of the 6 in the photo don't reach that far. I must pay more attention in future, and shall now scuttle off to examine my 45 nibs.

 

Also, I have never noticed a wider spaced gap at the non-tip end of the nib (I'm not sure what to call it).

 

Cheers,

David.

 

Thank you, David.

 

You certainly need to pay more attention to your pens and nibs. Lolz.

Humour aside, I believe sharp sense of observation and strong sense of enquiry are the starting points on road to finding answers to questions generated by the two senses about things hitherto unknown.

 

Sorry, for talking philosophy.

Edited February 28, 2017 by mitto

[the_gasman]

Sorry, for talking philosophy.

 

Does it remain a Parker 45 when you leave the room?

 

Cheers,

David ... or am I!

[mitto]

It could be anything AFTER I leave the room. And you are THE David - the one smitten by the P45 oddities. Lol.

Edited March 1, 2017 by mitto