Noodler's Baystate Blue Alternative

[Ink Stained Wretch]

http://sheismylawyer.com/She_Thinks_In_Ink/Colors/Blue/slides/2012-08-20-washed_001.jpg

 

I must day, your Noodler's Luxury Blue looks very different from mine. Maybe yours is a more recent batch. Mine is from maybe a year or so after that ink was introduced. When is yours from?

[amberleadavis]

2012 is when I took that scan. I probably had just bought the ink.

[ac12]

ISW

Be aware that a scan uploaded to FPN looks different than the scan held in your hand.

I went through that exercise and concluded that I could not get the uploaded image of the scan look like the physical scan.

[Ink Stained Wretch]

ISW

Be aware that a scan uploaded to FPN looks different than the scan held in your hand.

I went through that exercise and concluded that I could not get the uploaded image of the scan look like the physical scan.

 

Yes, I am aware that my monitor is not calibrated, and that very few people's monitors are calibrated, and very few scanners are calibrated. However, the difference from what I have is so stark that I still had to wonder if the formula for Noodler's Luxury Blue ink had/has changed.

 

I remember Nathan saying that the ingredients for that ink were difficult to come by, when he first released that particular creation to the public. So I'm thinking that it's entirely possible that the availability and/or cost of ingredients for Luxury Blue might have forced Nathan to change the ink, and therefore its color.

 

Anyway, I've got what I've got and I won't be buying more unless I hit the LOTTO or something. It was and is a very pricey ink in terms of cost per unit volume.

[amberleadavis]

Also, my Luxury Blue was really similar to Upper Ganges in terms of color. Nathan told me that they are very different under UV light.

[NORVIN]

I ordered a 3 oz. bottle of Noodler's Liberty's Elysium for Goulet Pen. I'll see how it does.

Edited February 15, 2017 by NORVIN

[domzals1]

I ordered a 3 oz. bottle of Noodler's Liberty's Elysium for Goulet Pen. I'll see how it does.

FWIW, LE also stained my pen a bit due to a breakdown in my pen maintenance discipline.

[ukobke]

There is no blue like Baystate Blue.

 

This thread https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/229624-international-klein-blue-the-most-perfect-expression-of-blue/

 

is the most analytical about the case of BSB and blues . Awsome analysis.

[torstar]

I give up for 3 months on BSB and settle into blue-green great inks, then the itch hits me and I pull the BSB off the shelf for another whirl...

[NORVIN]

There is no blue like Baystate Blue.

 

This thread https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/229624-international-klein-blue-the-most-perfect-expression-of-blue/

 

is the most analytical about the case of BSB and blues . Awsome analysis.

That's an interesting thread. Thanks for sharing.

 

I am just looking for a bullet-proof, eternal, non-bleed through alternative for BSB. I should have Liberty's Elysium this weekend with any luck.

[tonybelding]

That's an interesting thread. Thanks for sharing.

 

I am just looking for a bullet-proof, eternal, non-bleed through alternative for BSB. I should have Liberty's Elysium this weekend with any luck.

 

 

LE isn't vivid like BSB, but it's vivid. It's also not fully waterproof, though there is a permanent component that always remains.

 

Another notable option might be Noodler's Texas Blue Bonnet. It's almost completely waterproof (only a very small amount of cyan comes out) security ink, and it's a dark blue leaning very slightly towards teal. It bleeds and feathers somewhat less than the average Noodler's ink. It's not a vibrant color, but it's an attractive one (IMHO) and has excellent shading. I go so far as to call it my favorite blue ink.

 

However, TBB also is smelly and high-maintenance. I decided I could live with that.

[torstar]

There is no blue like Baystate Blue.

 

This thread https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/229624-international-klein-blue-the-most-perfect-expression-of-blue/

 

is the most analytical about the case of BSB and blues . Awsome analysis.

 

Does the article consider that BSB has (I am assuming from use) undergone reformulations to make it a more user-friendly ink over the years? Sorry, no time to read the site currently, and I would really like to have the time to do so shortly...

[NORVIN]

I received the Noodler's Liberty's Elysium and no it is not as electric as BSB, but it is not that bad. Kind of a Navy color.

[NORVIN]

I posted this to another thread and it is my conclusion on this subject:

 

I have both BSB and LE. I bought a brand new Noodler's Konrad Windego and inked it up with BSB. I noticed immediately my pen was stained. It took several cleanings and soakings to get the BSB stains out of it completely, but I was able to and now that pen is my LE pen. It's much easier to clean ink off the pen after filling it and no stains so if you decide to try BSB, have a dedicated pen for it you don't mind getting stained. Something like a Jinhao X750 or 599 (fountain pen with an international converter) would be the best choice.

As to BSB's performance, I like it, but hate how it bleeds through all my paper making two-sided writing impractical. I now use it for checks and small notes.

LE's performance is much better. It does bleed through the papers I use, but not as bad as BSB. It is not the electric blue color of BSB, but LE has a nice blue color to it. Kind of a light Navy color for lack of a better description.

I'd love to see a new BSB with the performance and spec's of Noodler's Black minus the black color.

[the_gasman]

OK, it's silly question time.

 

In order to achieve vibrancy, resilience, and permanence can you mix a favoured ink with some iron gall ink?

I suspect that the answer is a firm "NO!!!" because of incompatible pH or some demonic battle between the ingredients of the different ink families but someone, somewhere must have tried it. Or do any of the specifically and carefully formulated KWZ ferrogallic inks fit the bill?

 

Cheers,

David.

[amberleadavis]

Use a KWZI ink if you want colorful IGs. IGs are a different inky creature.

[ac12]

Norvin,

Slow down the ink flow of your pen, and LE should lighten up.

Out of my Parker 45, it is NOT a dark navy color.

[NORVIN]

Norvin,

Slow down the ink flow of your pen, and LE should lighten up.

Out of my Parker 45, it is NOT a dark navy color.

 

I said, "light Navy color", lol.

 

"LE's performance is much better. It does bleed through the papers I use, but not as bad as BSB. It is not the electric blue color of BSB, but LE has a nice blue color to it. Kind of a light Navy color for lack of a better description."

Edited March 6, 2017 by NORVIN