Trump's Pen

[rodrussell]

Was Kennedy the last president to use a fountain pen for signing bills?

Johnson used Esterbrook fountain pens at the start of his presidency. They were JFK's stash which Johnson used for a while. He stopped using them before the stash ran out. Then when he left office, he offered the rest of them for sale at his presidential library gift shop. He then switched to a Parker felt tip.

[pajaro]

Having found your posts to be always among my favorite viewing since I began watching, before joining, (Amblin along like I had good sense," will always be a favorite image for me, perhaps because I feel same, especially as I find myself aging amidst a world that has changed so much in my lifetime.) BUT, the above post just sent me to copy it into my "journal," merely a composite of things I like to remember for many different reasons.

 

"More like gas trapped in a mitten & trying to escape." This conveys an image I fear will "stick with me," far longer than I would like it to!

 

Thank you, ONCE again, for making my world more enjoyable while "stopping by here."

 

I was born in 1948. There has been more change in our lifetimes than in previous centuries.

 

My mother used to say "I'm ambling along along like I had good sense."

 

My grandfather used to say I was so active I was like "a f*rt in a mitten."

 

Thanks. You have made my day.

[ildbig]

They should use a Bexley or Edison pen!

[max dog]

They should use a Bexley or Edison pen!

Bexley and Edison are boutique pen makers located in the US, but would still essentially be assembled in USA pens with nibs by Jowo, and pen parts from China and elsewhere.

 

USA owned (by Clarion) and headquartered (Rhode Island), Cross is still the only major pen company that can claim to be an American company. So it would make sense they supply the pen for presidential bill signing. Will be interesting to see if Trump influences Cross to move manufacture back to the Rhode Island from China.

Edited February 19, 2017 by max dog

[torstar]

Bexley and Edison are boutique pen makers located in the US, but would still essentially be assembled in USA pens with nibs by Jowo, and pen parts from China and elsewhere.

 

USA owned (by Clarion) and headquartered (Rhode Island), Cross is still the only major pen company that can claim to be an American company. So it would make sense they supply the pen for presidential bill signing. Will be interesting to see if Trump influences Cross to move manufacture back to the Rhode Island from China.

 

Not aware the fountain pen business would be that critical to the economy, as the auto industry is...

[rx170]

But looking at it it is ball point/roler?http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2017_03/1873776/170120-trump-executive-orders-rhk-2045p_f33eca7913aef085ffb9481827ea97dc.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

[PenHero]

The signature pens are rollerball pens according to our Cross rep.

[torstar]

He has given me courage to take 30 seconds to put my signature on the page, as elaborate and natural as I think it should be!

[ildbig]

Bexley and Edison are boutique pen makers located in the US, but would still essentially be assembled in USA pens with nibs by Jowo, and pen parts from China and elsewhere.

 

USA owned (by Clarion) and headquartered (Rhode Island), Cross is still the only major pen company that can claim to be an American company. So it would make sense they supply the pen for presidential bill signing. Will be interesting to see if Trump influences Cross to move manufacture back to the Rhode Island from China.

Perhaps true about the pen parts, but they source some materials in USA and do the shaping in USA.

[Flippy]

But looking at it it is ball point/roler?http://media2.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2017_03/1873776/170120-trump-executive-orders-rhk-2045p_f33eca7913aef085ffb9481827ea97dc.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg

I think it's a Cross Townsend/Century II ballpoint in Black Lacquer and gold trim.

[PenHero]

Trump's pen is a Century II Black Lacquer with Gold Rollerball #414-1, using a Cross Porous Point Refill #8443, according to our Cross rep.

[OakIris]

Bexley and Edison are boutique pen makers located in the US, but would still essentially be assembled in USA pens with nibs by Jowo, and pen parts from China and elsewhere.

 

USA owned (by Clarion) and headquartered (Rhode Island), Cross is still the only major pen company that can claim to be an American company. So it would make sense they supply the pen for presidential bill signing. Will be interesting to see if Trump influences Cross to move manufacture back to the Rhode Island from China.

 

Curious about why you think Cross is more of an American company then Bexley and Edison? Cross writing instruments are no longer made here in the USA, they are made in China, at least Bexley and Edison do their own pen turning.

 

(Or is the emphasis of your statement on the word "major?" Cross certainly has a much bigger volume of sales, but I bet either Bexley or Edison could have provided all the pens necessary for Trump to use, should they wish to be associated with him.)

 

Holly

[Brandywine]

.....

 

ETA: On a more serious note, I really can't see a head of state using a felt tip marker to sign important documents. A ballpoint or rollerball, maybe. But a felt tip? Yeesh....

 

AFAIK Gordon Brown used a felt tip pen as Prime Minister of the UK on some occasions.

But then he is physically disabled (nearly blind since a rugby accident in his youth).

 

[highlander1307]

It looks like the President is using a different pen for signing documents. Maybe a felt tip marker of some type. Anyone have thoughts or information? Thanks.

[Astronymus]

What the heck? Sorry to say this, but this is either a lame compensating symbolizm or geriatric measures... For no other reason one, no matter who, would such a pen. Except giving autographs for overenthusiastic teen fans.

EDIT: PG adjustments

Edited March 12, 2018 by Astron

[Donald2]

 

What the heck? Sorry to say this, but this is either a lame compensating symbolizm or geriatric measures... For no other reason one, no matter who, would such a pen. Except giving autographs for overenthusiastic teen fans.

 

EDIT: PG adjustments

There are a lot of fans out there who don't mind getting the signature of famous people from magic markers and felt tip markers. For example, the so called "King", the famous and great Ron Jeremy uses a Sharpie felt tip pen to sign the tattas of enthusiastic women who are huge fans of him at the AVN Awards and at all the film conventions that he attends. Lots of women love to be have his autograph. He's got a BIG following.

[Astronymus]

Yeah, but on legislative documents?

[inkstainedruth]

Yeah, but on legislative documents?

 

I'm wondering how permanent using a Sharpie is going to be over the long term.... And visualizing his Presidential library in the future....

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

ETA: Of course I'm now envisioning an old episode of the TV show Taxi, the one where Reverend Jim's father shows up. I couldn't find the exact quote, but the father says something like "His first semester at Harvard he was a straight A student. His second semester, he started writing all his essays in crayon...."

Edited March 13, 2018 by inkstainedruth

[KellyMcJ]

 

I'm wondering how permanent using a Sharpie is going to be over the long term.... And visualizing his Presidential library in the future....

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

 

ETA: Of course I'm now envisioning an old episode of the TV show Taxi, the one where Reverend Jim's father shows up. I couldn't find the exact quote, but the father says something like "His first semester at Harvard he was a straight A student. His second semester, he started writing all his essays in crayon...."

I would guess there might be an "official" copy of the bill or order that has to follow archival rules etc and then a "show" copy that gets signed in ceremony for the camera and it could probably be signed in rainbow unicorn glitter for all practical purposes. As long as there's one archival original it wouldn't matter.

[Tweel]

I believe the bill that the President signs is the archival copy, printed to order on special paper, rather than a prop. The problem is that these documents are increasingly used as if they were transient television props, then carried off to e.g. the National Archives.

Edited March 14, 2018 by Tweel