Overview: Conid Regular With Delrin

[sketchstack]

  On 1/16/2017 at 5:41 PM, Lloyd said:

I must have missed it...which of your nibs (Ti, gold, #6, #8, F, EF) yields the most line variation from flexing? Any issues with railroading/skipping? Do you have any favorites and why?

 

Here's a quick assessment:

 

The nibs I have the most experience with are the Ti Fine and the 18k Fine. They are both very equivalent in terms of line variation. The variation itself is hard to define as it's relative to the non-flexed version of the line. But I can say that flex is not extreme by any means, nor do I find it to affect day to day writing at all. I think if you're looking for a bonafide "flex nib" you might be disappointed. If you're looking for a standard nib with a bit of variation with pressure, then they are both quite good.

 

Thus the primary difference between the two is in the amount of glide they have:

 

My experience with Ti in general is that there's a little resistance. Not feedback, mind you. It just feels like I need to push the nib a bit more than the gold. But the Ti is also a little more rigid than gold so it holds up well.

 

Whereas the gold nib is as one might expect: soft and smooth.

 

A related observation: Titanium kind of seemed like a gimmicky nib material at first. When I first discovered them I wondered why they were necessary, unless they're a truly gold replacement at lower cost.

 

The more I used Ti I'm realizing, in my experience, that they really bridge the gap between gold and steel. They aren't as rigid as steel, nor are they as soft as gold. I really quite like them.

[Lloyd]

So. if one wants the smoothest writer possible, you feel gold is the choice? Don't they both have the same tipping material (which is why a quality steel nib can be equally as smooth as a quality gold nib)?

[sketchstack]

  On 1/16/2017 at 8:35 PM, Lloyd said:

So. if one wants the smoothest writer possible, you feel gold is the choice? Don't they both have the same tipping material (which is why a quality steel nib can be equally as smooth as a quality gold nib)?

 

They probably do have the same tipping material, thus your comment about smoothness could very well be true.

[blopplop]

Thank you for the great review and unboxing. I just ordered the exact pen a couple of weeks and am waiting for it to show up in the mail. Seeing your unboxing video made me even more excited.

 

Again thanks,

Dave

[sketchstack]

  On 1/17/2017 at 8:42 AM, blopplop said:

Thank you for the great review and unboxing. I just ordered the exact pen a couple of weeks and am waiting for it to show up in the mail. Seeing your unboxing video made me even more excited.

 

Again thanks,

Dave

 

That's great to hear. A big motivation for me to make unboxing videos is for that reason --because I know it is cool and exciting to see them before ordering.

[sketchstack]

  On 1/16/2017 at 9:03 AM, Empty_of_Clouds said:

Really good review. I've admired the Conid pens for quite some time - bit beyond the reach of the average user though, alas. Surprised to see that the Pilot 823 takes more ink, though not by much.

 

I too was surprised, but keep in mind I'm going with published claims not real world use. And of course 0.05ml ink capacity difference is not nearly enough, in and of itself, to sway me with a pen purchase.

 

(For the record I've had a couple of Pilot 823 and I find them quite nice.)

[Komboloi]

Nice review. Love the graphics. Thanks.

[unigami]

Delrin is a material that is known for its slipperiness. It is often used for plastic bearings, bushings, gears and wherever a durable chemical resistant low friction surface between moving parts is required. Seems like it would be a bad choice for a section unless something was done to roughen it up a bit.

Edited January 18, 2017 by unigami

[fountainbel]

  On 1/18/2017 at 12:13 AM, unigami said:

Delrin is a material that is known for its slipperiness. It is often used for plastic bearings, bushings, gears and wherever a durable chemical resistant low friction surface between moving parts is required. Seems like it would be a bad choice for a section unless something was done to roughen it up a bit.

Hi unigami

This proved not being a problem, the section - being concave - ensures a firm grip.

Further on polished celluloid or hard rubber feature a nearly identical friction factor compared to Delrin.

Francis

[Lloyd]

Francis: not all things are easily quantified. Several users here have made this assessment based solely on usage. I used to work with a lot of delrin and I'd agree with those others assessment. Maybe if you coarsen the grip area it'll feel grippier.

[fountainbel]

  On 1/18/2017 at 8:06 PM, Lloyd said:

Francis: not all things are easily quantified. Several users here have made this assessment based solely on usage. I used to work with a lot of delrin and I'd agree with those others assessment. Maybe if you coarsen the grip area it'll feel grippier.

Hi Lloyd,

Thanks for your reaction.

But this happens to be the first time I read about it.

Conid had a test team of 4 frequent writers who tested pens with a Delrin section for 6 months, none of these testers complained. And as far as I know neither did Conid receive any complaints on this matter.

My daily writer is a regular with a Delrin section and honestly, I never felt there was such a problem.

Never the less I will surely bring it up at my next meeting with the Conid team.

Francis

[Lloyd]

Thanks. Any plans for more colorful acrylic Special Editions?