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I bought several Platinum Preppys for conversion purposes. One I converted to a marker/sharpie. I use it at work dating boxes. It is working great so far but I realize the fountain pen ink I am using is not permanent and may wipe off easily if I write on a plastic bag.

 

I first thought of Noodler's Bulletproof ink. Then I remembered that it is only permanent in the sense that it reacts with the cellulose in paper and may not solve my "plastic" problem. Does the Bay State line react the same way?

 

Any suggestions on ink that will be more permanent than fountain pen ink on plastic?????

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Wrong tool for the job.

 

A "Sharpie"

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:W2FPN:

 

 

Wrong tool for the job.

 

A "Sharpie"

 

 

 

+1

 

Hi,

 

Even though there are some FP inks that form some sort of bond with some plastics, (Noodler's 54M, Benevolent Badger Blue* and Kung Te-Cheng), but for writing directly on polyethylene bags, then there's nothing like a wet Sharpie.

 

As ever, I'd like to learn more from other Members, in particular those who have been exploring the recently released Document and ISO-compliant Permanent inks - Do they run on Mylar / polyethylene?

 

Bye,

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The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire.

 

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Maybe you could stick a little piece of self-adhesive paper to the bag/box and write on it instead of writing directly on plastic?

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:W2FPN:

 

 

 

 

 

+1

 

Hi,

 

Even though there are some FP inks that form some sort of bond with some plastics, (Noodler's 54M, Benevolent Badger Blue* and Kung Te-Cheng), but for writing directly on polyethylene bags, then there's nothing like a wet Sharpie.

 

As ever, I'd like to learn more from other Members, in particular those who have been exploring the recently released Document and ISO-compliant Permanent inks - Do they run on Mylar / polyethylene?

 

Bye,

S1

 

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* Adhesion NBBBl https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/233669-adhesion-noodlers-benevolent-badger-blue-on-mylar-aluminium-foil/?p=2512103

 

Sharpie or equivalent.

 

As for the Document inks, they aren't any different from the normal permanent inks, except they come with a 'stifficate that says that water/coffee/tea won't wash them off. They don't stick to plastic either.

 

You need an organic solvent based ink (like Sharpie, etc) that will penetrate the plastic, not the water based inks that are used in FPs.

 

I have had limited success with using Kung Te-Cheng for signing the back of EFTPOS/Credit cards, and I believe that Amberleadavis uses KTC for her garden labels.

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I've used KTC on plastic post-it flags with great success, and also it and some other "permanent" Noodler's inks (I seem to recall El Lawrence also being good in this regard) to sign the backs of credit cards. Some IG inks will work on the post-it flags, but they're not UV resistant.
Don't recall if BSB is good on plastic, but -- like the IG inks -- it's not UV resistant in the long haul.

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Sharpie or equivalent.

 

As for the Document inks, they aren't any different from the normal permanent inks, except they come with a 'stifficate that says that water/coffee/tea won't wash them off. They don't stick to plastic either.

 

You need an organic solvent based ink (like Sharpie, etc) that will penetrate the plastic, not the water based inks that are used in FPs.

 

I have had limited success with using Kung Te-Cheng for signing the back of EFTPOS/Credit cards, and I believe that Amberleadavis uses KTC for her garden labels.

 

 

Hi,

 

Once again, many thanks for your wise words. :)

 

Being an optimist, I had fingers crossed that the FP ink boffins had conjured some sort of 'Sharpie eqivalent' ink while I wasn't looking. It appears they have yet another challenge.

 

Bye,

S1

The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire.

 

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Hi,

 

Once again, many thanks for your wise words. :)

 

Being an optimist, I had fingers crossed that the FP ink boffins had conjured some sort of 'Sharpie eqivalent' ink while I wasn't looking. It appears they have yet another challenge.

 

Bye,

S1

Hrrrrr. Imagine how badly that would stain pens.

 

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Wrong tool for the job.

 

A "Sharpie"

Yep. That was what I was going to say. For a plastic bag or cardboard, sharpie is the better tool.

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  • 4 years later...

Some of the brands that you can use for plastics are Sharpie Extreme Permanent Markers, Shuttle Art 30 Colors Permanent markers, Staedtler Permanent Marker, Bongdou Oil-based Waterproof Paint Marker, and Phosea Acrylic White Permanent Markers, among others.

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On 11/15/2016 at 9:06 PM, Sandy1 said:

 

 

Hi,

 

Once again, many thanks for your wise words. :)

 

Being an optimist, I had fingers crossed that the FP ink boffins had conjured some sort of 'Sharpie eqivalent' ink while I wasn't looking. It appears they have yet another challenge.

 

Bye,

S1

Unfortunately you will need to invest in another type of pen. According to Nathan his "sharpie " ink will destroy preppy feeds. So you'd have to buy the Herbin version of the preppy marker. According to Herbin it can use India ink, plain pen ink etc. Or buy Nathan's Boston safety pen

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Years ago, as a darkroom photographer I needed an ink that I could use to mark negatives.  I tried Sharpies and also Staedler pigment liners.  They both adhered to plastic, but the marks weren't dense enough to show when the negatives were later printed.  Eventually, I opted to use a Rapidograph loaded with India ink.

 

My experience with fountain pen inks is that very few will write on plastics.  Magazines (remember those?) use a plastic coated stock for the cover (I suspect so that the cover won't pick up marks when displayed on a newstand), and my experience is that the only inks that will adhere to them are Platinum Iron-gall Blue Black and Noodler's Heart of the Commons.  Every other ink I have tried forms small beads rather than laying out distinct lines.

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Sharpie Oil Based Markers can be used on plastic. The traditional alcohol based Sharpie Markers are not ideal for plastic. If you want to keep them long on plastic, you can use nail polish or or mod podge.

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