Pen Similar To Parker 51 Or 21?

[KLscribbler]

If budget is an issue and you do not abuse your pens/treat them too roughly, then I would agree with the above comments that just getting a Parker 21 Super directly would be great. (Note: as others have noted above, the Parker 21 Super is not the same as the basic Parker 21, it is quite a bit better- more durable plastic that is less prone to cracks, has a more sophisticated ink collector feed like the Parker 51 Special, uses the same nib as the 51 special etc.)

 

As long as you don't treat it roughly, the 21 Super is a nice consistent writer that lasts a long time. I have one that's been in my family since the 1970s, my father used it as his school and college pen, after that I used it through my school and college years, and it is still working perfectly today. Simply excellent.

Edited October 18, 2016 by KLscribbler

[Caeruleum]

Thanks for this Link!

I think I'll try it with a cheaper one from eBay.

 

There aren't any other pens which at the same time have a hooded nib, are way more affordable than a Lamy 2000 (I like it, but at the moment wouldn't be able to use it) and are not prone to leaking, right?

[Caeruleum]

If budget is an issue and you do not abuse your pens/treat them too roughly, then I would agree with the above comments that just getting a Parker 21 Super directly would be great. (Note: as others have noted above, the Parker 21 Super is not the same as the basic Parker 21, it is quite a bit better- more durable plastic that is less prone to cracks, has a more sophisticated ink collector feed like the Parker 51 Special, uses the same nib as the 51 special etc.)

 

As long as you don't treat it roughly, the 21 Super is a nice consistent writer that lasts a long time. I have one that's been in my family since the 1970s, my father used it as his school and college pen, after that I used it through my school and college years, and it is still working perfectly today. Simply excellent.

Thanks for sharing your experiences. I guess I'll search on eBay for one.

[Mangrove Jack]

How about a semi-hooded nib. The Parker 45 is a good example. The best part is that the nib and feed can be easily removed for cleaning should the need arise. The nib's are easily changed in just a few seconds, so, you can have one pen of your favourite colour and material plus a few nib's of varied sizes which you can change at will. NOS P45's with solid 14 ct gold nib's are available cheap on eBay.

Edited October 18, 2016 by Mangrove Jack

[mitto]

If budget is an issue and you do not abuse your pens/treat them too roughly, then I would agree with the above comments that just getting a Parker 21 Super directly would be great. (Note: as others have noted above, the Parker 21 Super is not the same as the basic Parker 21, it is quite a bit better- more durable plastic that is less prone to cracks, has a more sophisticated ink collector feed like the Parker 51 Special, uses the same nib as the 51 special etc.)

 

As long as you don't treat it roughly, the 21 Super is a nice consistent writer that lasts a long time. I have one that's been in my family since the 1970s, my father used it as his school and college pen, after that I used it through my school and college years, and it is still working perfectly today. Simply excellent.

 

I have one that my uncle bought in 1956 when he was in college. He gave it to me in 1972 when I finished my high school and was going to get admission in college.

[Sasha Royale]

In the 1950's, everyone, who could afford a Parker 51, had one -- Churchill, Eisenhower, DeGaul, my Dad, etc. I love Parker 51's ! I am not a fan of the Parker 21. It was a "budget" version of the Parker 51. I find function to be good, but the pen body is a different plastic than the 51, and is often brittle after 50 years.

 

The HERO 616 is a good performer, though I estimate a quality control problem of ten or twenty percent. My easy solution was buying a package of ten for $15.95 , with free shipping. I had two "burping" pens, and one "skipping" pen. I gladly shared several of the remaining seven. Three of them remain in good service to me.

[Mangrove Jack]

In the 1950's, everyone, who could afford a Parker 51, had one -- Churchill, Eisenhower, DeGaul, my Dad, etc.

And many of them bought the Parker 61 when it came out. Just like many do nowadays when the new version of the iPhone or Samsung phone comes out. How technology and times have changed.

[Carl_S]

The Parker 21 and Super 21 can be great writers. The downside to them is that sometimes they have been victims of over tightening the section after filling, which cracks the plastic on the hood or barrel.

The South American ESCRITOR is a copy of the Parker 51. They are made from a milk product, like casein, and have a distinct odor.

 

A personal favorite pen with a hooded nib is the Waterman Taperites. The gold nibs can be found in a variety of widths.

[mitto]

The later production Parker 17 has a hooded nib and has great resemblance to Parker 51 aerometric in having the same type of filler. The 17 Deluxe with metal cap and gold nib may be a good choice compared to S21 if one wanted a cheap hooded gold nibbed parker pen.

 

 

 

http://parkerpens.net/parker17.html

[mitto]

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Edited November 6, 2016 by mitto

[Caeruleum]

The Parker 21 and Super 21 can be great writers. The downside to them is that sometimes they have been victims of over tightening the section after filling, which cracks the plastic on the hood or barrel.

The South American ESCRITOR is a copy of the Parker 51. They are made from a milk product, like casein, and have a distinct odor.

 

A personal favorite pen with a hooded nib is the Waterman Taperites. The gold nibs can be found in a variety of widths.

Thank you for this information. Could you send a link? Unfortunately I wasn't able to find much using Google.

 

 

@Mitto, thank you for this hint. Looks very interesting. Did you gain experince concerning how much one needs to pay on average to get a decent model?

[mitto]

@Mitto, thank you for this hint. Looks very interesting. Did you gain experince concerning how much one needs to pay on average to get a decent model?

 

I got all my 17s for $20-40 (depending on model and finish) from local antique stores. I dont know, however, as to how much they are sold for on ebay. There are members over here from UK who may help you getting English Parkers. Pm me and I may tell you some names.