Help Iding A Soennecken

[phentrek]

I'm hoping someone can help me identify the Soennecken in the attached picture. The imprint says Soennecken with no model number. It measures 12.2 cm capped. Thank you.

[kawuska]

Looks like a 510.

[phentrek]

Thank you.

[Bo Bo Olson]

My single Soennecken has no model number, nor a marked clip. The single band is wider and is marked with little Soennecken marks, that and the nib told me it was a Soennecken....it is one of my two Wet Noodles.

 

Osmia was the top of my budget....Soennecken was just above that back when I was buying more pens than I should have.

My grail pen was a 111 Extra in herringbone. After looking every day for 3 months...my money dribbled quickly out of the hole it burned in my pocket, so I got followed home by a flock of Pelikans.

[phentrek]

My single Soennecken has no model number, nor a marked clip. The single band is wider and is marked with little Soennecken marks, that and the nib told me it was a Soennecken....it is one of my two Wet Noodles.

 

Osmia was the top of my budget....Soennecken was just above that back when I was buying more pens than I should have.

My grail pen was a 111 Extra in herringbone. After looking every day for 3 months...my money dribbled quickly out of the hole it burned in my pocket, so I got followed home by a flock of Pelikans.

 

I too would like a 111 Extra. I like what I've experienced in this 510. Soennecken seems to have made really nice pens.

[konis]

In advertising from 1937 year, clip is different like in your pen, but I think it is a Soennecken 510.

I have Soennecken 504 with clip like in your pen.

regards

[handwriter]

I agree with Konis, I have seen both types of clips in several models of that time

[phentrek]

Great input! Thank you.

 

Did Soennecken make a piston fill pen the size of a Montblanc 139 or Celluloid 149?

[konis]

Yes.

 

https://markivo.wordpress.com/2012/07/25/prasident/

 

regards

[phentrek]

Yes.

 

https://markivo.wordpress.com/2012/07/25/prasident/

 

regards

 

Wow!

[Bo Bo Olson]

Osmia had 3-4 different clips, and two to three different cap jewels.

So did MB, in clips and cap bands, depending on the era and the level.

My MB 234 1/2 Deluxe has a wider band and a Meisterstuck clip, where the regular 234 1/2 has a 'normal' generic style clip and a couple of narrow bands.

The Pelikan Ibis had a generic clip vs the normal Pelikan clip on the 100-400's.

[kawuska]

Soennecken Praesident, top of Soennecken pens.Soennecken Praesident mark 1 has size of 139.These pens did not have pistons but fantastic button filling system.

 

http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q732/Kawuska/Prasident_zpslr8usfpx.jpg

[JLS1]

Soennecken Praesident, top of Soennecken pens.Soennecken Praesident mark 1 has size of 139.These pens did not have pistons but fantastic button filling system.

 

http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q732/Kawuska/Prasident_zpslr8usfpx.jpg

 

Sigh...a Sonnecken Praesident & Rheingold are two of my grail pens (and I only have 3 grail pens...)

I guess I can always dream, right?

[Ana_]

I love Soennecken. I collect them when I can find them alongside the Tower series. I have a button filler Rheingold with the bird logo on the flat top of the cap and that is my Grail pen. My everyday writers are interchangeably 2 "The Tower City" soenneckens (of totally different sizes?) They are so smooth! I only use watermans black in these vintage pens. Anyone tried using other brand inks or even color inks in your vintage soenneckens?

[Bo Bo Olson]

I use mostly shading inks in my vintage pens....and I have outside of the Waterman, vintage German pens from the late 30s to 65 the end of the fine vintage nibs, (and '72 for my Geha 725).

Pelikan, MB, R&K and one can use the two IG inks in the old pens used even harsher IG inks, just clean every month....3 months was what MB and Pelikan recommended in the early 50's in I have papers from then. MB and Pleikan had an IG ink then....

Herbin is good too.

 

All those are shading inks, and not supersaturated like some Diamine or most Noodlers. I don't care for Diamine in many feather. Supersaturated inks can cause problems, so must be cleaned more often than IG inks; every couple of weeks.

Some DA inks are shading, others are supersaturated or well saturated.

 

We are living in The Golden Age of Ink....so there are many safe tones and colors to be had.

 

Do not use Red/Redish inks.

Purple inks have to be cleaned out more often that others, in both can cause the ink window to darken.

Edited September 4, 2016 by Bo Bo Olson

[Don Jr]

Getting back to the original pen that was posted & started this thread...

 

Why do you think there is no model # imprinted on the barrel (where we normally see a "507" or "510" and so on)? Were those without numbers maybe for export - or a different model altogether? I wonder if Phentrek could let us know the length of the pen (capped) so we'd learn which of the model numbers from the same shape that it matches?

[phentrek]

Getting back to the original pen that was posted & started this thread...

 

Why do you think there is no model # imprinted on the barrel (where we normally see a "507" or "510" and so on)? Were those without numbers maybe for export - or a different model altogether? I wonder if Phentrek could let us know the length of the pen (capped) so we'd learn which of the model numbers from the same shape that it matches?

The capped length is in the original post. 12.2 cm