Toffee Brown - Montblanc

[AndyYNWA]

@Inkyhand - Toffee Brown is darker and shades more dramatically (photo taken with smartphone, white balance is off).

 

 

 

I think that nice earthy brown that is available in Poland for reasonable money is Diamine Chocolate Brown.

Thanks for the comparison!

Which one behaves better?

Edited July 9, 2016 by AndyYNWA

[amberleadavis]

I like this ink, and adore your review, thanks Vis.

[visvamitra]

@Amber - thank you for kind words

 

@AndyYNWA - both behave very well. Hazelnut Brown has some water resistance, Toffee Brown has none.

[AndyYNWA]

@AndyYNWA - both behave very well. Hazelnut Brown has some water resistance, Toffee Brown has none.

Thanks!

That information is very useful for me.

[Cyber6]

My boutique didn't even know about the problems.

 

Vis, in your review Toffee Brown looks better (IMHO) than in a few other reviews which I have seen. Currently I have Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Brown and J. Herbin's Lie de Thé and I am looking for a third shade of brown. This time a real earthy brown, no red undertones, no golden sparks, no green tinge and no orange background Something which would look like a real dark chocolate, like PR Chocolate or Noodler's Walnut, but easily available in Poland. Do you have any suggestions? It seems that I like Toffee Brown, but as I said - in your review it has little redness and is quite dark.

 

I second Andy's request

 

 

KWZI Dark Brown has no red, orange, green.... any undertones. Is a gorgeous straight Brown.

 

 

 

C.

[Lam1]

Great review. Thanks for posting.

 

I really like this ink (and I love the Blake's quotation ).

[Ergative]

I'm very fond of this ink, and use it fairly often. It strikes me more than any of my others to depend on on the paper it is used with. We're all familiar with how Rhodia or Tomoe River paper will bring out a sheen and shading in a way that regular copy paper will not, but with Toffee Brown the color itself changes. On TR paper it's flatter and greyer -- a more delicate brown, in a way--while on copy paper the red undertones come through, and it's a bit more earthy. I don't know which version I like better, but it's a subtle, complex ink that is restful to look at.

 

It's a tenacious beast to clean off the pen, though. There's always a pink residue left behind on the feed and nibs that won't come off with flushing. So far I've only ever used it in Pilot Metros, so I just yank out the nib and feed and clean them separately, but I'd hesitate to put it in a more delicate pen -- or, at least, in a more delicate pen that I didn't plan to dedicate to it entirely.

[Old_Inkyhand]

C., I was waiting for your KWZI suggestion Thank you very much!

[neotobeo]

Excellent review, thanks.

[Cyber6]

C., I was waiting for your KWZI suggestion Thank you very much!

 

You know me...

 

and you are welcome.

 

 

C.

[rudyhou]

looks very similar to nada brown from nagasawa kobe.

[888007888]

This is my favorite overall ink

[massoh]

interesting review, thanks

[mehandiratta]

Wonderful review.. This is infact I guess one of the best sellers of MB

[croccanova]

Wow thanks for that in depth look!

[ItwasLuck]

 

 

KWZI Dark Brown has no red, orange, green.... any undertones. Is a gorgeous straight Brown.

 

 

 

C.

 

 

Hehe very true! I'm loving my KWZ Dark Brown atm, so much more than say Take-Sumi which I stopped using entirely, already been through almost half the bottle in 2 weeks time! I just ordered myself some MB Toffee Brown, just for something a little different but I wouldn't be surprised if I see myself ordering another bottle of Dark Brown next week.

 

Great review and I would also recommend KWZ Dark Brown for anyone looking for a nice brown color that shades well and has some really well behaved properties!

Edited November 25, 2016 by ItwasLuck

[Bo Bo Olson]

A bit late to the party, but I have had this ink from when it first come out.

I was just looking to see what nib I should use, semi-flex or normal springy regular flex. Springy regular flex picked in it is dryer than semi-flex.

B is too wet.

I would normally go to M, but F shaded well....I found a old Germany pre'97 200 Blue Marbled gold plated M.

It runs a bit browner and lighter with an old tear drop tipped M nib than the darker B nib from the visvamitra's  first post of this thread.

 

I didn't know Octopus Karmel, was so old; no idea at all, thinking it a new ink.

I just so happened to have that Octopus shading Karmell on many of my testing papers, and that was the same color in M as it was in visvamitra's first post.

 

In the tear drop nib of the pre '98 200, MB Toffee is a bit dryer than Octopus Karmell also in a  Pelikan 215 but double ball and therefore 1/2 a width wider M.

Toffee has light shading on most of the 12 or so papers I have out for testing.

I liked it then and still like it.

[kazoolaw]

Does anyone know what happened to the OP?

[Bo Bo Olson]

Visvamitra is still around. I read his Ink Reviews often, and that in a few more modern inks.

 

I bought toffee right after MB went over to 60ml shoes (€13) from the old 50ml (€12)shoes of the well hated Racing Green (as all MB items were so hated here on the com)....which as soon as discontinued became the most liked.

Dark Basement Alchemists tried for years to clone that ink.

 

Toffee is the MB ink I'll break my vow of not going over €20 on any ink,with.

 

I really think MB gouged us...going from €16 to €19 in one year and to €23 the next.

They had to keep up with the Jones, of the overly expensive Graf v Faber-Castell, Cd'A, and any Japanese ink....which are expensive in Germany Iroshizuku inks run €35 here in Germany. Up from 25 of two years ago..

In a couple years I'll be asking who makes a cheap Kon-piki...in I like that ink but not at that price.

 

Oh, MB is a cheap ink...compared only to Graf, Cd'A, and Iroshizuku inks.

..................

I did find Oyster/Cool Gray worth breaking my vow....a vow is not a word...if one has a good hair splitting lawyer.

[Carrau]

14 minutes ago, Bo Bo Olson said:

Visvamitra is still around. I read his Ink Reviews often, and that in a few more modern inks.

 

It looks like he hasn’t visited FPN since 2022.