Sailor Rikyu-Cha

[glorfindel]

 

Somewhere someone mixed some KWZI Hunter Green with Herbin Lie de The and ended up not a million miles from Rikyu Cha.

 

I also find Rober Oster Melon Tea somewhat similar to Rikyu Cha in both color and behavior. The melon tea is just so-slightly less brown.

[Tas]

 

Somewhere someone mixed some KWZI Hunter Green with Herbin Lie de The and ended up not a million miles from Rikyu Cha.

Guilty.

 

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/307986-sailor-rikyu-cha/?p=3623209

 

[Jazini]

It is a beautiful ink and I am very happy with my only one bottle. Wait. Maybe I need more!!

[Honeybadgers]

rikyu cha also has a reddish sheen when laid down wet.

 

It's very much a green brown, heavily leaning towards brown.

[Detman101]

On 5/5/2016 at 8:16 AM, lgsoltek said:

Sailor recently re-released the old four seasons inks. Sadly it's a limited edition (again!) and I had great difficulty to have finally got three of them.
A gorgeous greenish brown with a coppery matte sheen. It writes down as green and quickly dries to brown. Does this remind you of something else? Pen & Message Cigar? The exact same colour, the same sheen, the same colour change, and the same behaviour.

Splash
(photo; scan)

 

Sample
(with Sailor 1911 Naginata Togi NMF, on Maruman looseleaf.)


(on Tomoe River cream paper. This sheet is going to Amber for her CRVs.)


Compare
I'm going to convince you they are the same ink. Well, maybe, just maybe, Rikyu-cha has more green.
(horizontal: RC. vertical: Cigar. Left: RC. Right: Cigar.)

Dangit!!
I had a feeling I bought the wrong one.
DOH!! I got Tokiwa-Matsu instead of this one...dangit!
😧 🤦‍♂️

[A Smug Dill]

2 minutes ago, Detman101 said:

DOH!! I got Tokiwa-Matsu instead of this one...dangit!

 

Are you saying you intended to order Rikyucha for the colour but inadvertently selected the wrong product, or that you'd have preferred Rikyucha, but something made you choose Tokiwamatsu instead eyes wide open when you were ordering?

[Detman101]

2 minutes ago, A Smug Dill said:

 

Are you saying you intended to order Rikyucha for the colour but inadvertently selected the wrong product, or that you'd have preferred Rikyucha, but something made you choose Tokiwamatsu instead eyes wide open when you were ordering?

The second choice.
Stupidly...Something made me pick "Tokiwa-Matsu" thinking it would give the color/tone/shading that "Rikyu-Cha" has.
😞
I have got to start doing more thorough research before giving in to Amazon.
Their reviews are not to be trusted.

 

[LizEF]

9 minutes ago, Detman101 said:

I have got to start doing more thorough research before giving in to Amazon.
Their reviews are not to be trusted.

That's for sure!  Sample, sample, sample!  Especially if you're in the US, where it's so easy to get samples.   (It took me a while to learn that lesson, now I have so many samples I may never buy another bottle!  It's possible I got confused somewhere along the way...  )

[LizEF]

14 minutes ago, A Smug Dill said:

eyes wide open

Hey, that's a nice new avatar you've got there!  🤖

[Detman101]

12 minutes ago, LizEF said:

That's for sure!  Sample, sample, sample!  Especially if you're in the US, where it's so easy to get samples.   (It took me a while to learn that lesson, now I have so many samples I may never buy another bottle!  It's possible I got confused somewhere along the way...  )

You are so correct.
Lesson learned.
Looking at the ink, I don't think it would work for me anyhow due to my flex pen use.
It would just shade too darkly from the heavy amounts my pen puts down on the page. I'd never see any of the shading at all. I saw another youtube video of the ink in use and it showed just as I suspect.

[A Smug Dill]

4 minutes ago, Detman101 said:

Looking at the ink, I don't think it would work for me anyhow due to my flex pen use.

 

Maybe you'd like to take on doing a FlexNIR series , given you are in the US and (just acknowledged) it's therefore easy for you to acquire ink samples, if you believe there ought to be ink reviews that focus on flex pen use for the benefit of the minority of fountain pen users that really cares about (and/or primarily use) flex nibs, much in the way @LizEF is the champion for the EF nib users minority.

[Detman101]

18 minutes ago, A Smug Dill said:

 

Maybe you'd like to take on doing a FlexNIR series , given you are in the US and (just acknowledged) it's therefore easy for you to acquire ink samples, if you believe there ought to be ink reviews that focus on flex pen use for the benefit of the minority of fountain pen users that really cares about (and/or primarily use) flex nibs, much in the way @LizEF is the champion for the EF nib users minority.

That would be a wonderful service to the community, however, I have neither the seniority...compliant spouse...or variable range of flex pens to fulfill the endeavor.
I'm still very much a newbie making newbie mistakes every week....and a few times throughout the week during manic/panic moments.
 

[LizEF]

1 hour ago, A Smug Dill said:

Maybe you'd like to take on doing a FlexNIR series ,

Oh, that would surely be very popular!  People are all the time asking for recommendations for inks that work well in flex pens.

 

1 hour ago, A Smug Dill said:

much in the way @LizEF is the champion for the EF nib users minority

 

1 hour ago, Detman101 said:

...variable range of flex pens to fulfill the endeavor.

I use exactly one pen for all my reviews (more precisely, 1 nib, which has lived in 3 pen bodies and now settled in the third¹).

 

1 hour ago, Detman101 said:

I'm still very much a newbie making newbie mistakes every week...

Doing reviews is a great way to learn, and the community is very forgiving, and grateful for whatever is offered.

 

So don't let those two things stop you.  But by all means, take care of self and spouse first - ink reviews aren't worth messing those up.

 

¹Insight into how Liz's mind works (or doesn't).  Writing about 1 nib in three pen bodies.  "Three bears."   Nib: "This pen is too light."  "This pen is too heavy."  "Ah, this pen is just right." 🥥🥥

[Detman101]

3 hours ago, LizEF said:

Oh, that would surely be very popular!  People are all the time asking for recommendations for inks that work well in flex pens.

 

 

I use exactly one pen for all my reviews (more precisely, 1 nib, which has lived in 3 pen bodies and now settled in the third¹).

 

Doing reviews is a great way to learn, and the community is very forgiving, and grateful for whatever is offered.

 

So don't let those two things stop you.  But by all means, take care of self and spouse first - ink reviews aren't worth messing those up.

 

¹Insight into how Liz's mind works (or doesn't).  Writing about 1 nib in three pen bodies.  "Three bears."   Nib: "This pen is too light."  "This pen is too heavy."  "Ah, this pen is just right." 🥥🥥

 

4 hours ago, A Smug Dill said:

 

Maybe you'd like to take on doing a FlexNIR series , given you are in the US and (just acknowledged) it's therefore easy for you to acquire ink samples, if you believe there ought to be ink reviews that focus on flex pen use for the benefit of the minority of fountain pen users that really cares about (and/or primarily use) flex nibs, much in the way @LizEF is the champion for the EF nib users minority.

Well, if I have the push of one of my fountain pen heroes and the support of my favorite ink reviewer....I just might give it a shot!
Thank you both! I don't know where I'll start...actually...I'll start with my latest inks and work my way backward!
I need to prepare...please forgive me if I emulate your styles in my writing reviews...I can't think of better examples to draw inspiration and formatting from

[lgsoltek]

5 hours ago, Detman101 said:

Dangit!!
I had a feeling I bought the wrong one.
DOH!! I got Tokiwa-Matsu instead of this one...dangit!
😧 🤦‍♂️

Tokiwa-matsu is also fabulous too. That shift of colour from leaf green to fallen leaf yellow-green when it dries is fascinating. 

[Detman101]

18 minutes ago, lgsoltek said:

Tokiwa-matsu is also fabulous too. That shift of colour from leaf green to fallen leaf yellow-green when it dries is fascinating. 

It doesn't function that way in flex pens...unfortunately for me.
If I ran a regular pen, I'd keep it...but it doesn't work for me.

But, no frowns to be had here today!!
I found an ink that changes colors for me even in my flex pen!
Shades so amazingly well I'm falling in love...

[LizEF]

1 hour ago, Detman101 said:

Well, if I have the push of one of my fountain pen heroes and the support of my favorite ink reviewer....I just might give it a shot!
Thank you both! I don't know where I'll start...actually...I'll start with my latest inks and work my way backward!
I need to prepare...please forgive me if I emulate your styles in my writing reviews...I can't think of better examples to draw inspiration and formatting from

Emulate away.  Forgiveness granted in advance for any and all inky shortcomings.   Looking forward to your flexy reviews.

[LizEF]

1 hour ago, lgsoltek said:

Tokiwa-matsu is also fabulous too. That shift of colour from leaf green to fallen leaf yellow-green when it dries is fascinating. 

I shipped my Tokiwa-matsu to Germany, and I have to say, the colors my friend there is getting out of it are quite different than the colors I got out of it - he's sent me two letters thus far which include writing with it.  I assume different pens as the first one was what I expect - a foresty green (though not as dark as I got), and the latest one has quite a brown lean.  The paper seems to be the same both times, but I'm not sure what paper it is - something laid, but I don't know beyond that.

 

Point being, I think this ink might deserve testing in all of one's pens and papers, just in case.

[vtgt]

Does anybody use this in a wet flex nib and get blue sheen at the edges? I would like to know if the blue sheen is something only achieved by ink blobs.

[Aether]

On 5/12/2021 at 11:13 AM, Detman101 said:

It doesn't function that way in flex pens...unfortunately for me.
If I ran a regular pen, I'd keep it...but it doesn't work for me.

But, no frowns to be had here today!!
I found an ink that changes colors for me even in my flex pen!
Shades so amazingly well I'm falling in love...

 Function of flow.   If your nib puts down a consistent generous flow then ink will look darker, in the general view.   Tried it in a William Mitchell #2 roundhand square nib.  That is a sharp cut dip nib with a reservoir.  Once past the initial overflow darkness, tokiwa-matsu does show good shading.