Hiro 40 Nib With Modifier

[vxv]

 

link to the video: https://www.instagram.com/p/BAbgYqNrwrR/

 

Recently, i stumbled across this video where someone uses a pen nib with excellent flex.

The video creator said it was the Hiro 40 Nib, but there appears to be a modifier or so on top of the reservoir.

 

What is it? Does it add flex? What does it do?

 

[Algester]

looking at it it looks like a tape if not metal of some sort if it is what I think it is it's an over feed and also an extra ink reservoir

[Randal6393]

Sorry, don't see what you are referring to. Looked at the Hiro # 40 on John Neal, Booksellers (www.johnnealbooks.com) website. Looks like the standard nib to me. This nib has a ridge of metal before the tang starts. And the nib is fitted into a standard pen holder. Looks like nothing extra to me.

 

isoin, if you like flex and want to try it, would suggest getting three each of four or five popular flex nibs and some good ink, then going to work with them. It is a lot of fun. Very frustrating every once in a while, though.

 

Enjoy and best of luck,

[vxv]

looking at it it looks like a tape if not metal of some sort if it is what I think it is it's an over feed and also an extra ink reservoir

i wouldn't say tape because that would restrict the flexibility. i think probably an overfeed, thank you!

[vxv]

Sorry, don't see what you are referring to. Looked at the Hiro # 40 on John Neal, Booksellers (www.johnnealbooks.com) website. Looks like the standard nib to me. This nib has a ridge of metal before the tang starts. And the nib is fitted into a standard pen holder. Looks like nothing extra to me.

 

isoin, if you like flex and want to try it, would suggest getting three each of four or five popular flex nibs and some good ink, then going to work with them. It is a lot of fun. Very frustrating every once in a while, though.

 

Enjoy and best of luck,

im referring to the horizontal extra piece of metal attached on it. i have seen ink reservoirs but they were all vertical.

there is nothing like the horizontal part on the original nib, but I can't tell whether the piece affects the nib's flex.

"This nib has a ridge of metal before the tang starts."

i apologize but i can't understand this fully, may you please use simpler terms?

I am very much a fan of flex nibs.

I have yet to try out many of the flex and stiff nibs I have ordered from kallipos, I have not had the opportunity to use them yet and I am looking for a chance to.

 

Thank you very much!

Edited January 22, 2016 by isoin

[missuslovett]

The Tang is the metal that pushes into the pen handle. The ridge referred to is just before the flare of the nib and stops it being pushed into the handle too far. Hope this helps.

[jabberwock11]

The person in the video DOES stick a piece of tape onto the nib (looks like electrical tape), I have seen this done to aid in ink collection, as a sort of makeshift temporary reservoir, but this is rare as there are better methods. If there is another reason that the calligrapher may have done this, I am not aware of it...you would have to ask that person.

 

I use Hiro 40s all of the time, the nib itself is not modified in any way, that is just the way that it looks. If the horizontal piece that you're talking about is the metal bulge then it is a standard part of the nib and is, as was mentioned, to help keep the nib from being inserted too far into the holder and is not added, but is an initial part of the nib. Some similar nib, such as the Brause 361, do not have this ridge. It does not affect the performance of the nib in any way and really just comes down to manufacturer deign and aesthetics.

 

Here are some pictures...sorry about the image quality, I was in a hurry, but wanted to help clear up the confusion. (1st, several Hiro 40s, back and front. 2nd, comparing the back and front of a Hiro 40. 3rd, comparing the Hiro 40 to the Brause 361. Last, several nibs with horizontal ridges.):

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 22, 2016 by jabberwock11

[missuslovett]

Can you still get little clip-on reservoirs for these kind of nibs? I used them all the time on round hand pens and they were essential.

 

 

Edited January 23, 2016 by missuslovett

[jabberwock11]

There are plenty of different kinds of slip on reservoirs and they are widely available, but they do not really fit the Hiro 40. An ink cage type reservoir works alright, but these sort of nibs hold a good amount of ink without any special reservoirs added on.

[Randal6393]

I think the piece of metal you are calling an overfeed is the edge of the ferrule the nib slides into. Still feel that the nib is unmodified.

 

The Hiro nib is a pointed pen nib and is normally used without a reservoir. Many calligraphers recommend filling the nib with an artist's brush, there are several videos on YouTube that show how to ink and use pointed pen nibs. Broad-edged (italic) nibs use reservoirs and are usually dipped to fill but may also be filled with a small artist's brush or eyedropper. Best video on that is an old Hallmark video on the work of Hermann Zapf.

 

Best of luck,

[Randal6393]

Can you still get little clip-on reservoirs for these kind of nibs? I used them all the time on round hand pens and they were essential.

 

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Yes, at Paper & Ink Arts or John Neal, Bookseller. Along with a nice variety of broad-edged nibs of all sizes and kinds. Essential for round hand pens, not so useful for pointed nibs and flex work.

 

Enjoy,

[vxv]

The Tang is the metal that pushes into the pen handle. The ridge referred to is just before the flare of the nib and stops it being pushed into the handle too far. Hope this helps.

thanks for telling me about these terms!

i hate pens without ridges, i think ive almost pushed an entire nib into a pen once by accident.

i wish companies nowadays like speedball would put a ridge on their nibs.

[vxv]

Yes, at Paper & Ink Arts or John Neal, Bookseller. Along with a nice variety of broad-edged nibs of all sizes and kinds. Essential for round hand pens, not so useful for pointed nibs and flex work.

 

Enjoy,

out of curiosity, why are they less suitable for pointed nibs and flex work? do they restrict the movement?

[vxv]

The person in the video DOES stick a piece of tape onto the nib (looks like electrical tape), I have seen this done to aid in ink collection, as a sort of makeshift temporary reservoir, but this is rare as there are better methods. If there is another reason that the calligrapher may have done this, I am not aware of it...you would have to ask that person.

 

I use Hiro 40s all of the time, the nib itself is not modified in any way, that is just the way that it looks. If the horizontal piece that you're talking about is the metal bulge then it is a standard part of the nib and is, as was mentioned, to help keep the nib from being inserted too far into the holder and is not added, but is an initial part of the nib. Some similar nib, such as the Brause 361, do not have this ridge. It does not affect the performance of the nib in any way and really just comes down to manufacturer deign and aesthetics.

 

Here are some pictures...sorry about the image quality, I was in a hurry, but wanted to help clear up the confusion. (1st, several Hiro 40s, back and front. 2nd, comparing the back and front of a Hiro 40. 3rd, comparing the Hiro 40 to the Brause 361. Last, several nibs with horizontal ridges.):

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you, this was exactly what I was asking in the original question.

Without the tape, the Hiro is still able to flex like what's shown in the picture I put in the original post, right?

Also, I've got to admit that I'm a little bit jealous of that collection!

[Randal6393]

out of curiosity, why are they less suitable for pointed nibs and flex work? do they restrict the movement?

 

More like allow uneven flow when the nib flexes, leaving the stroke uneven. I have never used a reservoir on a flex nib and have not seen one being used in a video or at pen shows. So, for all I really know, might not affect the stroke at all.

 

Maybe you would like to try it and see what happens? Be sure to take pictures and report, would love to know.

 

Enjoy,

[vxv]

 

More like allow uneven flow when the nib flexes, leaving the stroke uneven. I have never used a reservoir on a flex nib and have not seen one being used in a video or at pen shows. So, for all I really know, might not affect the stroke at all.

 

Maybe you would like to try it and see what happens? Be sure to take pictures and report, would love to know.

 

Enjoy,

I was going to try a reservoir on my Zebra G Nib, but none of my reservoirs are budging. I'll see if I can get my hands on a reservoir soon to see what happens.