Mont Blanc - Is It Fake Or Genuine?

[rob3902]

I bought my first Mont Blanc on eBay. The pen (MB145) was supposed to be shipped from London, UK ( seller's location indicated in the listing), but it was actually shipped from China.
The box was in poor condition.

Is the pen fake? What is your opinion?

[zaddick]

Yes, fake

[rob3902]

  On 1/6/2016 at 12:45 AM, zaddick said:

Yes, fake

Can you tell me why?

[zaddick]

Nib imprint is too shallow, fake and wrong converter, garbage box, gold color looks like it goes all thw way to the end of the nib over the tipping, etc.

 

Did you Google the serial number? A lot of fakes use the same one.

 

And really, why would the pen come from China in your example except if it was made there.

[CS388]

Sorry to report: if you Google EN1340798, you'll find a good few pens carrying the same number.

 

Never a good sign.

 

It baffles me that counterfeiters got to such lengths to make their pens exact copies, then use the same serial number again and again.

[HermetiC]

Fake, sorry.

[Chrissy]

It is a fake and the main reason apart from the fake serial number is that you can see lots of gold paint flaking off of the nib, as well as covering the tips where the 'iridium' should be. So that tells you straight away that it isn't a gold nib. That can't possibly happen on a gold nib.

 

The feed isn't correct. If you were to drag your fingernail along those fins they are so soft they will bend from the direction that you dragged your nail.

 

The converter is nothing like an authentic screw in converter, so that's a fake and I bet an authentic one wouldn't fit in. No Montblanc converter has ever had the words Mont and Blanc printed along it, nor that weird wrong snowcap logo next to the word Blanc. The brand name is Montblanc no space.

 

The box isn't authentic, because the Montblanc logo inside isn't correct, and nor is the warranty certificate. I bet the part of the box where the pen sits has a cut out portion rather than having two folded edges that are very tightly close together so that you have to really push hard to get the pen in between the two folded parts.

[Nathanb]

Font of the serial number is also wrong..

 

See if a magnet will stick to the nib?

[I like mango cheesecake]

Ok how much did you pay for it????

[khoobo]

Hi there,

as I'm total newbie to both this forum and let"s say fountain pens as well, I would need your help regarding opinion about genuinity of Meisterstueck 149 that I just bought yesterday. Pics are below:

[HermetiC]

Real. If it has a functional piston, then it is authentic.

[Chrissy]

  On 1/8/2016 at 11:45 AM, khoobo said:

Hi there,

 

as I'm total newbie to both this forum and let"s say fountain pens as well, I would need your help regarding opinion about genuinity of Meisterstueck 149 that I just bought yesterday. Pics are below:

 

 

Absolutely authentic.

[khoobo]

Thanks god. I was afraid a bit as "Pix" logo on the clip doesn't have ® symbol "engraved".

[Tarlasha]

looks real for me too

[Cordovian]

Rob,

 

As stated by others, the 145 is, without a doubt, a fake. Assuming you just received the pen, file a claim with Ebay immediately based on the item being counterfeit. Also include a note that the seller is giving a false location. You'll get your money back but it will take a few weeks.

 

Look to see if the seller has more of the same pen for sale (they likely do or will very soon) and report each of them if he/she does.

[Ray_NEMBFV]

I've mentioned this in other posts. They are making piston fillers in India for $17.00USD, so the piston filler verification is no longer valid. And again, the top the clip of a real 149 is not flat with a hard angle down. The "bump" rolls all the way to the body of the cap. I had to send a fake back on eBay and noticed this.

Edited January 28, 2016 by Ray_NEMBFV

[Chrissy]

  On 1/28/2016 at 6:14 PM, Ray_NEMBFV said:

I've mentioned this in other posts. They are making piston fillers in India for $17.00USD, so the piston filler verification is no longer valid. And again, the top the clip of a real 149 is not flat with a hard angle down. The "bump" rolls all the way to the body of the cap. I had to send a fake back on eBay and noticed this.

 

 

They aren't making piston fillers that are like Montblanc authentic piston fillers, so the working Montblanc type piston filler and window is still a valid method of denoting an authentic Montblanc.

 

No 149 that has a piston filler and an ink window like the one pictured is a fake.

 

Can you show us a picture of the $17 Indian piston filler?

[Ray_NEMBFV]

http://file///C:/Users/Ray/Desktop/Pics/dsc00229.jpgBy no means am I trying to offend, only stating my observances. I just sent back a 149 that had a piston filler (it would only write for 3/4 of a page before I had to twist the piston to get some more ink to the nib. Then do it again after another 1/2 page). This was on top of a nib (by no means am I an expert), feeling and looking like a chicken foot. I compared it to the 146 that I purchased and noticed some differences, subtle and not. The 149 weighed less than the 146. Aside from the 146 writing like butter on a heated mirror, when you look at the clip at the top, the bump rolls all the way to the body of the cap, see pic below (above?). The fake had a hard 90 degree angle and flat top, the real has a softer angle aside from the bump.

this website has indian piston fillers now for $4 on their opening page:

www.fountainpenrevolution.com

Obviously, they are not the MB fakes, I'm just saying that they've duplicated the technology that makes it cost prohibitive to make a piston filled fountain pen.

I'm using an old ultralite and not sure if the pic uploaded or not. Will try again if it doesn't go.

[Ray_NEMBFV]

It took me reading directions to figure this out (I apologize). Here are two 149's, one with a "flat top" clip, and one with a non-90 degree (bump flows to the cap body). I submit that the "flat top" cap is a copy. Could I be wrong? Certainly, but I think manufacturing has come quite a ways and even if they cost 25-50-75 dollars to make, the current rate is almost all over $400 as of this morning. This is the fake version, note the flat area on top of the clip.

Edited January 29, 2016 by Ray_NEMBFV

[Ray_NEMBFV]

This, I submit, is the real version. Unless someone can explain why the variation exists from an exclusive manufacturer. As I said, the one I sent back wrote worse than the Jinhao pens that I have, and I apologize again for not taking photos. I think I can find a writing sample between the 146 and the two 149's. The nib alone tells the story.

 

Thanks,

 

This is just my observation and mho and not intended to frustrate, aggravate, or otherwise upset anyone. I just think that the levels of fakes has risen and a lot of the assumptions held previously are no longer valid.