Pilot To Introduce Con-40, Discontinuing Con-20 & Con-50

[Algester]

and the CON-50 and CON-20 arent much different in their height... I guess...

[KBeezie]

The CON-40 is no shorter nor thinner than the CON-50. If a CON-50 won't fit, then I suspect the CON-40 won't either.

The Con-40 is thinner as it's flushed from beginning to end, the con-50 has a step up which is where the problem is (outside of the fact that in some pens you won't be able to see the ink level anyways).

[Mew]

I have 4 con-20 left with me for my Elite 95s. I guess I don't have to worry then.

[AndyYNWA]

I ordered 2 pcs CON-40 on 11-Feb-2016, still waiting.

Really hope they arrive soon, I'm tired of not being able to see the ink.

[ISW_Kaputnik]

I found this thread after noticing that an Amazon reviewer of the CON-20 had said that it was "going away". So I googled for some confirmation, and found myself here.

 

The CON-20s do appeal to me a bit more than the CON-50s, but I should have enough not to wear out in the Pilots that I have. I'll definitely buy one of these new CON-40s when they become available, just out of curiosity.

[Algester]

to those who still can't trust what Pilot says then please someone test this

 

Converter for the Elite 95 as labeled in Pilot Japan's website

適合コンバーター(インキ吸入器）

CON-40 CON-20 ※カートリッジインキもご使用できます。

[tragique]

I found this thread after noticing that an Amazon reviewer of the CON-20 had said that it was "going away". So I googled for some confirmation, and found myself here.

 

The CON-20s do appeal to me a bit more than the CON-50s, but I should have enough not to wear out in the Pilots that I have. I'll definitely buy one of these new CON-40s when they become available, just out of curiosity.

 

You can already buy them: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pilot-CON-40-2016-NEW-Fountain-Pen-Converter-/191813325817?hash=item2ca8f713f9:g:~9sAAOSwX~dWmIHK

[ISW_Kaputnik]

 

You can already buy them: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pilot-CON-40-2016-NEW-Fountain-Pen-Converter-/191813325817?hash=item2ca8f713f9:g:~9sAAOSwX~dWmIHK

Thanks for the link. That $7.60 shipped price is certainly better than the $15.97 Amazon Prime price (for one!) that I found after posting. No hurry, though. If I wait a couple of months, perhaps Jet Pens will have them for less, although I'd have to throw in some notebooks to reach the level for their "free" shipping.

[AndyYNWA]

 

You can already buy them: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pilot-CON-40-2016-NEW-Fountain-Pen-Converter-/191813325817?hash=item2ca8f713f9:g:~9sAAOSwX~dWmIHK

 

If one ever receive them... I have waited since 11-Feb on mine...

[Algester]

Pilot Converters of the modern times

http://imgur.com/Wsi6NRk.jpg

[kronos77]

Of the con 20 and con 50, which is the most reliable for ink flow?

[KKay]

I have the Con-50 and it has given me no trouble at all. I haven't tried the 20, so I cannot comment on that.

[rafapa]

If one ever receive them... I have waited since 11-Feb on mine...

I orderd one on Jan 24. Still waiting.

[cellmatrix]

Pilot Converters of the modern times

http://imgur.com/Wsi6NRk.jpg

 

Algester, an illustrated 50+ year history of pilot converters complete with year of introduction, comparative length and volume measurements. Amazing, and thanks!!

 

Its interesting to see that pilot shortened the con-70 a little in 1996 without sacrificing capacity. I suppose thats why, in pens that can handle it, I like the con-70 the best because of its ink capacity. In pens that can't hold a con-70, I definitely prefer refilling cartridges as they hold far more ink than any other options available.

[hari317]

Pilot Converters of the modern times

http://imgur.com/Wsi6NRk.jpg

wonderful pic Algester, thanks for sharing. Can you tell us a little bit more about the source from where this is taken? I would like to read a little bit further and possibly take the help of google translate. intersetingly the above list is not complete, since I have atleast three more types of pilot, made in Japan, converters which are not shown in the pic above.

[Algester]

hence I called it the modern times the ones were lost were the early 50s and the war era converters if they have them (as I'm not sure if I could include the bellow filler a converter)

also indeed the list isnt as complete as the deviations of the CON-NAS arent displayed

source is as follows Bungu no Shuumi Hako vol 37

Edited March 6, 2016 by Algester

[hari317]

hence I called it the modern times the ones were lost were the early 50s and the war era converters if they have them (as I'm not sure if I could include the bellow filler a converter)

also indeed the list isnt as complete as the deviations of the CON-NAS arent displayed

source is as follows Bungu no Shuumi Hako vol 37

the concept of a Pilot cartridge pen and a converter to use with such a pen itself is a modern one. anyway. Thanks for the reference, will try to see if i can find something.

[KBeezie]

hence I called it the modern times the ones were lost were the early 50s and the war era converters if they have them (as I'm not sure if I could include the bellow filler a converter)

also indeed the list isnt as complete as the deviations of the CON-NAS arent displayed

source is as follows Bungu no Shuumi Hako vol 37

Also what about the Con-W that was before they went the current c/c route in the 60s? (ie: the ones the early capless needed).

[ehemem]

the war era converters if they have them

 

There were no "war era converters" or pre-WW2 converters. All Pilot/Namiki pens of that vintage were either Japanese eyedroppers or lever fills to the best of my knowledge...

[Algester]

There were no "war era converters" or pre-WW2 converters. All Pilot/Namiki pens of that vintage were either Japanese eyedroppers or lever fills to the best of my knowledge...

true... 1950s was the time they introduced the Super series which was entirely stuck on converters "switch fillers" but other Super series pens still used different "converters" undocumented probably beyond what I can read in Crónicas Estilográficas

Also what about the Con-W that was before they went the current c/c route in the 60s? (ie: the ones the early capless needed).

this I will have to dig about the only converter usable by the first capless would have been the SS use converters but the first capless came out in 1963 unless Pilot kinda got lazy and just said to use cartridges until they got converters that fit later on

as they introduced the CON-W according to the page in 1994.

Edited March 7, 2016 by Algester