The Matador Thread

[jmnav]

Chip, unfortunately...

 

Sorry. I hope it doesn't impact its performance, though...

[kawuska]

Now to take a break from Turbo: Garant 998.I couldn't resist that elusive nib to get another one.This piece is near mint and...what a nib!Having two pens I could compare them.Guess what: these models have different type of piston mechanism, also the length is different (longer for ink window lengtht).One piston needs groove cut in barrel wall to lead it, the other one is independent.One pen has number imprinted on blind cap the other on piston housing.Heart-hole an round one is just a detail.

[markiv]

Jumping from one fun puddle to another

 

Awesome addition there; wants me to open up my 998.... the nib looks sharp - I love that.

The spiral lead screw is from the amber ink-window pen? Any idea which one is older?

[christof]

998! What a fantastic pen. And it's great to see the internals. Thank you.

C.

[kawuska]

That spiral mechanism is from dark ink window pen.I suppose the longer pen should be younge: who'd shorten ink window as a "novelty"?Those nibs are amazing: huge piece of gold with EF tip, and I mean EF!

[Azuniga]

Thanks for the images, very useful... I guess I will open it as markiv...

[Parcival]

I got Turbo today. The pen is 14.1 cm. Later I will take pictures with other pens - to compare the size. Here are the photos of the seller:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DP-Used-Vintage-MATADOR-TURBO-924-or-921-FOUNTAIN-PEN-Brown-USA/183036558609?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

 

[Parcival]

Voila:

[christof]

Fantastic!

I should have had this pen to arrange my picture...

btw: 100 is quite a steal! Congrats.

C.

Edited January 31, 2018 by christof

[kawuska]

Do you have pics of a nib out?I measured my 924 nib size 5 and it's 32.2mm.Is it "7" mark on yours?

[Parcival]

Do you have pics of a nib out?I measured my 924 nib size 5 and it's 32.2mm.Is it "7" mark on yours?

[kawuska]

Maybe there is also 927 on turning knob?

[Parcival]

Maybe there is also 927 on turning knob?

The pen is number 924, but I think the buyer has asked for the pen to have a larger nib or it is placed later - repair/changed.

[kawuska]

If you menage to knock nib out take measurement, it may turn out to be the biggest Matador nib so far!

I just measured the feeds diameter in my two 924: 5mm and 6.3mm, surprise.Looks like you could have the same pen with different nib sizes.According to George Kovalenko, Morton ceased around 1920-22 so either Matador used old stock (safety?That what a sharp tip on the back of the nib may suggest) or later nibs were made by some other company?Around WW1 Kaweco bought Morton know-how and machinery to produce their own nibs.

Edited February 2, 2018 by kawuska

[Azuniga]

For many years I have had this strange Matador…

 

It measures 14.3 cm closed and the only reason I consider it a Matador is because it has the same patent imprint we have seen here – Polish one – the same filling system, the nib # 5 and the number 924 in the place where their numbers are, although it is not easy to read anymore…

There are no other imprints on barrel or cap.

 

It has a little ‘kiss on the lip’ as you can see in one of the images

 

 

 

Edited February 3, 2018 by Azuniga

[kawuska]

Looks legit save the cap.Color of both parts may suggest Denmark/Swiss origin?That imprint on barrel is not polish special by the way, I've seen it on other Matadors too.What a nice nib Ariel, that's what I would love to find somewhere..

[christof]

Looks rather Danish to me. Why do you think Swiss?

C.

[kawuska]

Looks rather Danish to me. Why do you think Swiss?

C.

) I thought swedish of course.

[kawuska]

Today small eye-candy: Matador display from 1925.As can be seen, paper box design did not change much up into '30s.Matador also had their promotional department that was able to prepare such window dispaly sets for particular retailers. Photo from "Der Papierhandler" thanks to Tom Westerich and his effort to take photos of few issues of that periodical.

 

[Parcival]

PDF (4 pages) from Jim Marshall book for repair of german safety (Montblanc, Kaweco & Osmia) and Turbo Matador pens.

http://www.penpencilgallery.com/ppcl_images/PDFs/WEBSITE%20ENG_GERMANSAFETIES.pdf