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The subtle country bashing is getting old. So we don't use the metric system, get over it and keep it pleasent. B)

True, which is why I was surprised to hear Mr. Tardif add it in in his commentary in the plastic bottle video. Besides, Americans are often proud of our odd-person-out status in view of most of the world, and which Mr. Tardif iterated also in his video. As some dairy farmers in my state said in response to President GHW Bush's presidential initiative to have the country go metric by the year 2000: "I ain't never sellin' my milk in any da[r]n liter bottle." God bless the ounce and the gallon, which has...wait...let me look this up....144...no, that's gross....128 ounces in it! :)

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True, which is why I was surprised to hear Mr. Tardif add it in in his commentary in the plastic bottle video. Besides, Americans are often proud of our odd-person-out status in view of most of the world, and which Mr. Tardif iterated also in his video. As some dairy farmers in my state said in response to President GHW Bush's presidential initiative to have the country go metric by the year 2000: "I ain't never sellin' my milk in any da[r]n liter bottle." God bless the ounce and the gallon, which has...wait...let me look this up....144...no, that's gross....128 ounces in it! :)

Not referring to dairy farmers, Tardif nor his video, but solely to backhanded comments on this thread that are entirely unnecessary and obstructive to FPN rules. :/

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Not referring to dairy farmers, Tardif nor his video, but solely to backhanded comments on this thread that are entirely unnecessary and obstructive to FPN rules. :/

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Seems the trolls come out of their caves whenever Noodler's Ink or Montblanc pens are mentioned.

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OK..here's another thought on the whole angle of keeping shipping costs down..

 

what if...Nathan offered a chunk of Noodler's ink — in dry, concentrate form — sufficient to make the 3-oz or whatever size you want, and the end user adds water and stirs/shakes/mixes it him/herself?

 

Then, that user would be free to use any container of their choosing, and possibly reap a small financial benefit?

 

I personally wouldn't go that route; I trust Nathan's craft and judgement, and I'm happy to receive a ready-to-use bottle of his concoctions.

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I don't care what unit system is used, what I questioned was why Noodler's is the only ink manufacturer which sells ink by weight and not by volume.

 

If it's fluid ounces, pints, drams, gallons, millilitres, centilitres or cubic meters, I don't care. It's the weight I have a problem with.

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OK..here's another thought on the whole angle of keeping shipping costs down..

 

what if...Nathan offered a chunk of Noodler's ink — in dry, concentrate form — sufficient to make the 3-oz or whatever size you want, and the end user adds water and stirs/shakes/mixes it him/herself?

 

Then, that user would be free to use any container of their choosing, and possibly reap a small financial benefit?

 

I personally wouldn't go that route; I trust Nathan's craft and judgement, and I'm happy to receive a ready-to-use bottle of his concoctions.

 

 

As a lover of powdered inks, I can tell you they aren't for everyone and most FP users don't want the fuss. Also, water is not the same in every region, and the ink comes out differently. Right now, one of the best super concentrates is available from JustWrite in Australia. Noodler's are saturated that you can add water and dilute them significantly and still have a terrific ink,

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To me, clarity and information is the most important, not whether they measure out in English or French (=metric) units, or if they measure in weight or volume, just as long as I am informed. I didn't know that Chemyst measured ink by weight until I saw the aforementioned video, and at the same time, Nathan tells us why, here and in the video. It is because they are essentially made to be watered down and diluted to the consumer's pleasure, which makes the concept of buying by volume moot. If I wanted do convert those units to ones I am comfortable, that would be fine in my book, but with the large amount of ink I get from Noodler's, that is really not important. It is a hell of a lot of ink that will last almost anyone really long, no matter how you see it.

 

To sum up: as long as I know the facts and motivations behind a seller's business choices, I am good.

 

This also goes to Noodler's temporary change to plastic bottles.

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It's interesting world when the other people with clashing views on things are trolls, or european / american, or the opposing political party wing, or what ever.

 

Just not one of us.

 

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It's not a massage oil....I think... B)

One would expect the lubricating inks to work fairly well for massage...

The colour change of the client's skin might be a bit disturbing, though.

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....I didn't know that Chemyst measured ink by weight until I saw the aforementioned video, and at the same time, Nathan tells us why, here and in the video. It is because they are essentially made to be watered down and diluted to the consumer's pleasure, which makes the concept of buying by volume moot.

True, but interestingly, the inks are considered, by the manufacturer (apparently), as "non-miscible," which suggests the opposite of what you write here. But I, too, have enjoyed the benefit of adding some water (my water is well water) to the heavily saturated Noodler's inks (and to some from other brands, like the Levenger Cobalt Blue).

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One would expect the lubricating inks to work fairly well for massage...

The colour change of the client's skin might be a bit disturbing, though.

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good thing the BSB isn't lubricated....is it?

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To me, clarity and information is the most important, not whether they measure out in English or French (=metric) units, or if they measure in weight or volume, just as long as I am informed.

 

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eh, i've never been a fan of Noodler's bottles. the plastic one's ugly, sure, but their old glass ones weren't any great beauties either --- none of the common sizes, in fact. impractical to fill a pen out of, too, and the 4.5oz one is IMPOSSIBLE to fill any pen that's not an eyedropper out of, really. i buy the ink for the ink, not for the container.

 

i already bought myself an empty Lamy bottle to decant my KTC into, simply because i wanted to fill non-eyedroppers with it, and i was getting tired of eyedroppering it into an empty Goulet sample vial for the purpose; i may pick up a few more of those as i can find them --- they make great inkwells. i'd not use the ink in them, though, not while i can still get Noodler's.

 

i do hope the plastic turns out to be evaporation-proof, however. rehydrating the ink would be doable, yes, but would be a nuisance of a chore, and i use my ink so slowly that if this is a concern then i'm one who WILL get bit by it. (plastic waste's a minor concern with me --- since i only empty one bottle every six to ten years, i'm not going to worry overmuch whether it's plastic or glass.)

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Speaking of plastic bottles; maybe noodlers can offer 2 oz inks in the Rogaine or similar size plastic bottles.

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Just not convinced that plastic is the solution. I wonder about such things as sitting in a hot mail delivery vehicle for days on end. Also wonder about freezing. Can't imagine that plastic at -30F is going to be anymore durable than glass. I can see it now with Polar Blue "engineered for the coldest of climates" or some such drivel, coupled with a plastic bottle that becomes brittle at 0F :P Brittle plastic won't survive ink freeze any better than glass, but who knows, the ink itself may be useless anyway after that. Just a question of whether you have a pool of it all over the place or not.

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