Chinese Pens Show And Tell.

[Mech-for-i]

FOA, Wing Sung's "tubular" nib ( in their home market it was referred to as the wrapped nib for obvious reason ) come in 2 sizes ( for us ), the large and medium , and in 3 finishes, chromed , TigP gold , and two tone , and AFAIK only come in one standard grind and Fude, but that's only for the standard range .. the large size is used on the 23X range and the 380, and the medium size is used on other range and here's the part ; non standard wrapped nib are indeed available on those individual model ;

 

- Falcon style aka Pilot PO type nib on M size steel , available on the 841 and 842 model, referred to as a droplet grind as the tipping is of an M size and it curve down and made the tip looking like having a droplet of water , the tipping is more on the under side of the nib also ; designed to be used as a fude when writing reverse

- M 14K gold , available on the Cloisonné models ( 300, 320, 350 )

- B 14K gold, available on the standard 300 series model ( 300, 301, 302, 354, 355 )

( only the M 14K gold is in both large and medium size, all the others medium sized nib only )

 

As the standard nib goes , its well , fine , and a light hand usually can keep the line fine so long the ink is not too wet. line variation is actually quite easy to had with some pressure on the pen but I would not say it provide a lot. In writing I find that the nib is generally smoother than Wing Sung's 500 and 220 series nib and on par with their hooded nib ( standard grind ) but feel different .. the hooded nib is firmer but more tolerant on angle towards the paper and its less sensitive to pressure on the pen.

 

If you are looking for that wider one, the 14K B is your best bet, all the others is scarce, rare and hard to find.

 

And here's my Wing Sung 841 Droplet geind conical nib in side profile, the photo do not show it well, but the tipping is a rather obvious round ball of material tapering to the bend position, it write a very smooth medium when used normally.

Wing Sung droplet nib side profile by Mech for i, on Flickr

Edited September 7, 2017 by Mech-for-i

[Helen350]

For of the past several daysss I have been using these pens. Have to admit I have not felt like inking any other pens. Experiencing a bout of pen lethargy, I guess. I have enjoyed seeing the pens posted, and being envious of Ian's handwriting.

 

Tourneau MMXV - M. Nib. Sheaffer Skrip Green

Picasso Avignon - M. Nib. Iroshizuku Kon-Peki (This pen is a winner!!!!)

Hero-Yangtze - Lamy Dark Violet

 

[richila]

Helen, I just love your photographs!

[Ian the Jock]

FOA, Wing Sung's "tubular" nib ( in their home market it was referred to as the wrapped nib for obvious reason ) come in 2 sizes ( for us ), the large and medium , and in 3 finishes, chromed , TigP gold , and two tone , and AFAIK only come in one standard grind and Fude, but that's only for the standard range .. the large size is used on the 23X range and the 380, and the medium size is used on other range and here's the part ; non standard wrapped nib are indeed available on those individual model ;

 

- Falcon style aka Pilot PO type nib on M size steel , available on the 841 and 842 model, referred to as a droplet grind as the tipping is of an M size and it curve down and made the tip looking like having a droplet of water , the tipping is more on the under side of the nib also ; designed to be used as a fude when writing reverse

- M 14K gold , available on the Cloisonné models ( 300, 320, 350 )

- B 14K gold, available on the standard 300 series model ( 300, 301, 302, 354, 355 )

( only the M 14K gold is in both large and medium size, all the others medium sized nib only )

 

As the standard nib goes , its well , fine , and a light hand usually can keep the line fine so long the ink is not too wet. line variation is actually quite easy to had with some pressure on the pen but I would not say it provide a lot. In writing I find that the nib is generally smoother than Wing Sung's 500 and 220 series nib and on par with their hooded nib ( standard grind ) but feel different .. the hooded nib is firmer but more tolerant on angle towards the paper and its less sensitive to pressure on the pen.

 

If you are looking for that wider one, the 14K B is your best bet, all the others is scarce, rare and hard to find.

 

And here's my Wing Sung 841 Droplet geind conical nib in side profile, the photo do not show it well, but the tipping is a rather obvious round ball of material tapering to the bend position, it write a very smooth medium when used normally.

Wing Sung droplet nib side profile by Mech for i, on Flickr

Again, Mech-for-i, many thanks.

This is great, It's like having an "in house" Chinese pen encyclopedia...Brilliant

There's certainly enough here for me to be getting on with and a bit of hunting to be done.

That droplet grind sure is an odd looking business though. I have a couple of fude nibs and can fully understand why, and how it operates, but it does look strange.

 

Again, many, many thanks for your invaluable insights and information.

 

YER A STAR.

 

Ian

[Ian the Jock]

Helen, I just love your photographs!

Richila, you just beat me to it.

 

Helen

Another fine pic, with which you "sell" your pens, so very well.

I always enjoy your lovely photos

I've also been using my Yangtze quite a bit, and I'm becoming quite fond of it, as it does write rather well.

Still battering away with the Avignon I see.

I still don't have one, and now that I have the Wing Sung wraparound/conical nib info from Mech-for-i to attend to, it may be a wee while yet before I get it.

 

I'm still waiting on my Jinhao 675, but I'm more excited about the Wing Sung 235 (I'm really taken by the triumph style nib), but it will be a good while yet before it arrives.

 

Ian

[Ian the Jock]

How rude of me

Helen, thank you for your comment about the handwriting.

 

When I was but a lad at school, If I can remember that far back, I used to get taunted a bit for my "flowery" handwriting, especially when teachers commented on it, with the said teachers using standard Scottish sarcasm not helping of course, and it left me open to ribbings, from those who were brave enough....Or thought they were.

 

I think it made me more determined to have "fancy" handwriting, and I only wish I had known about fountain pens then.

But then again, I'd need a aircraft hanger for my pens by now. Every cloud.

 

Ian

[Helen350]

How rude of me

Helen, thank you for your comment about the handwriting.

 

When I was but a lad at school, If I can remember that far back, I used to get taunted a bit for my "flowery" handwriting, especially when teachers commented on it, with the said teachers using standard Scottish sarcasm not helping of course, and it left me open to ribbings, from those who were brave enough....Or thought they were.

 

I think it made me more determined to have "fancy" handwriting, and I only wish I had known about fountain pens then.

But then again, I'd need a aircraft hanger for my pens by now. Every cloud.

 

Ian

 

I own two of the Bookman pens (Jinhao 675). I like the look of the filigree. Have not inked them for some time now, but might have to pull one out in the near future. With over 200 pens, and awaiting two to arrive, I'm taking a break for a bit. My latest Pilot 74B has arrived in the States, so hoping to see it by next weekend (ordered August 3). I also have one arriving from India - hoping before the rapture of the Church! ;)

[Helen350]

Helen, I just love your photographs!

 

Thanks for your kind remark Richila.

[MrDickens]

I thought I'd show off my latest acquisition, a gorgeous Jinhao X750 stainless steel chessboard pattern, received today from China via eBay in only 9 days!

I've gone on a mad splurge and I have 7 more Chinese pens coming soon/eventually, and less than £17 for all of them!


I hope the format of this post is ok, and the pictures too? Can I apologise too for my handwriting! Looking at the quality of handwriting here at FPN, mine leaves a lot to be desired so I hope you can read it ok?

[Ian the Jock]

Wiccaman, no need to apologise for anything at all, it's great to have you showing and telling.

The 750 is a smashing pen.

Good to see you're loading up with new Chinese pens, and I'm sure there will be many, many more.

At the prices you can get them for, they very quickly become irresistible.

You can't get much for a tenner in the UK these days, but on ebay China..... The world's yer badger.

Enjoy the 750, and your £17 quids worth when they arrive, and remember to let us know just how good they are.

 

Ian

[MrDickens]

Wiccaman, no need to apologise for anything at all, it's great to have you showing and telling.

The 750 is a smashing pen.

Good to see you're loading up with new Chinese pens, and I'm sure there will be many, many more.

At the prices you can get them for, they very quickly become irresistible.

You can't get much for a tenner in the UK these days, but on ebay China..... The world's yer badger.

Enjoy the 750, and your £17 quids worth when they arrive, and remember to let us know just how good they are.

 

Ian

Thanks, Ian.

 

Been a stationery addict since I was a kid but the (Chinese) fountain pen market has opened up a whole new wave of obsession! I have my eye on other FP too, non Chinese such as a Noodler's Ahab and a Midori brass.

 

I'm experimenting with inks too. The R&K I've had for some time, currently only got 3: the Scabiosa, Verdigris & Leipzig Schwartz. I've got a small selection of Diamine inks and just bought Herbin Rouge Opera, to go with the transparent Herbin pen I bought on a whim!

 

I'll be sure to post some more 'show & tell' when the other get here

Edited September 9, 2017 by thewiccaman

[Mech-for-i]

welcome to the abyss, Wiccaman

[MrDickens]

welcome to the abyss, Wiccaman

 

Thanks

[Ian the Jock]

 

The ink is Diamine Asa Blue, of which I'm not normally a fan (a bit greeny on most papers) but WOW! It looks more blue and shades really, really well on this Oxford Optik paper.

You see......Still learning.

 

Ian

[richila]

Ian, it took me three tries to get a Jinhao 675; the first 2 were WingSung. I got a refund for the 2nd one because it said specifically that it was a Jinhao 675. When I pointed out the points of difference-clip, nib size, the name on the pen- I was given a refund.

[MrDickens]

O

 

 

The ink is Diamine Asa Blue, of which I'm not normally a fan (a bit greeny on most papers) but WOW! It looks more blue and shades really, really well on this Oxford Optik paper.

You see......Still learning.

 

Ian

 

Oh. I've got what I believe to be a Jinhao 675, bought it some 3 years ago. I'm wondering now if it is genuine? It does have a Book Worm nib, seems quite heavy/solid with smooth edging where the silver meets the 'amber' but nowhere does it say 'Jinhao'.

 

And the irony isn't lost on me either, inasmuch, Chinese pens often knock off other makers but for there to be a knock off of a knock off!

[Helen350]

 

The ink is Diamine Asa Blue, of which I'm not normally a fan (a bit greeny on most papers) but WOW! It looks more blue and shades really, really well on this Oxford Optik paper.

You see......Still learning.

 

Ian

 

 

Like the looks of your ink! Oops, forgot to mention I love the new picture of your beautiful dog!!

[MontPelikan]

Hello,

a quick video review of the Wing Sung 3203 could be found here:

 

 

Thank you for watching and sharing!

 

MontPelikan

[bobje]

Helen is right, Ian. The new dog profile photograph restores dignity after the caption caper.

[Ian the Jock]

Ian, it took me three tries to get a Jinhao 675; the first 2 were WingSung. I got a refund for the 2nd one because it said specifically that it was a Jinhao 675. When I pointed out the points of difference-clip, nib size, the name on the pen- I was given a refund.

The listing did state that it was a Jinhao 675 Richila, and shows pics with a Jinhao nib.

The seller has asked for photos, and to be honest, I can't believe I've actually gone to the bother of sending them to him. He says he will sort it it, but I'm a bit as I have received a pen that works, appears well put together and cost next to nothing, however, I do want the Jinhao variant, and If he sends me one, I'll do the Huashilai as another caption competition prize.

It does genuinely appear to be a decent pen, which writes very nicely.

 

O

 

 

Oh. I've got what I believe to be a Jinhao 675, bought it some 3 years ago. I'm wondering now if it is genuine? It does have a Book Worm nib, seems quite heavy/solid with smooth edging where the silver meets the 'amber' but nowhere does it say 'Jinhao'.

 

And the irony isn't lost on me either, inasmuch, Chinese pens often knock off other makers but for there to be a knock off of a knock off!

Knockoff of a knockoff

I don't think that's the case wiccaman.

There were quite a few companies who produced this pen, Bookworm, Yiren, Jinhao, Huashilai, and others, but the Jinhao is believed to be the best of them.

The Yiren, and Huashilai efforts were deemed to be the poorer of the bunch.

 

 

 

Like the looks of your ink! Oops, forgot to mention I love the new picture of your beautiful dog!!

It's not an ink I'm particularly fond of Helen, but I do use it occasionally, it shows well on the Oxford paper though.

I used it in a broad italic before and it was too greeny for me...I like BLUE

Thanks Helen, she is a wee gem, and an irreplaceable (gulp) best friend for my son.

 

Helen is right, Ian. The new dog profile photograph restores dignity after the caption caper.

Your right Bob

I should be ashamed, she doesn't deserve that.

I've had/been around dogs all of my life, and Hannah has the best nature and temperament I've ever come across in a dog, she is a genuine hairy angel.

 

I suppose I'd better balance the books after showing the world her Sunday morning photo.

 

This is the wee face that stole our hearts.

 

And this is the same same wee face, that roasts our hearts on a regular basis, and you can see why.

 

Ian