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I am using the Indian Pen today....

 

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Mehandiratta - that is a good looking pen! Love your handwriting too, keep those photos coming!

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My new 3776 I got todayhttp://i.imgur.com/T9Jbe24.jpg?1

Did some dip writing with it earlier until I get the converter

Super pen - congrats! I'm a huge 3776 fan! What size nib did you get?

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Hi SNAK - great-looking new pen. I'm familiar with BB, but what is BBL?

Sharkpie, I believe "L" in ML, BL, and BBL stands for Lettering. They have a really flat and round foot ground to the blobby tipping. So Lettering nibs produce really wet but flat looking lines with no line variation at all, and have very small sweet spot. I had two of the BBL so I sent one to Mr. Pendleton Brown to have it ground to a more acute than usual 30-degree left oblique. Here are a few shots of the Lettering nibs comparing them to a regular steel B nib.

 

From left to right: Pelikan Steel <B>, <BL>, <BBL> and a 30 degrees oblique nib ground from <BBL>.

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Nibs: Pelikan Steel <B>, <BL>, <BBL>, and a 30-degree oblique nib ground from <BBL>

Ink: Pelikan Edelstein Amethyst

Paper: Tomoe River (White)

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I've been trying to look at lots of examples of 19th-century letters and more informal writing. I see a lot of people seemed to create short, wide letters and words, a very different X-Y ratio than most formal letters. Then I started writing more with some of my old stub nibs, and writing parallel to the line of writing. Lo and behold, the letters and words started to look similar to the ones I had seen. My writing definitely gets sloppier with these nibs, but the speed and smoothness make them excellent for rough drafts or quick notes. These nibs just glide across the paper, especially when the nib is parallel to the line. If I try and hold them at a sharper angle, they become more likely to skip and slow me down. Parallel is definitely the way to go. They also work MUCH better on rougher or more textured paper than pointed nibs.

 

The holder is a vintage (early 20th-century?) wooden holder marked "Palmer Method Rite-Hold PAT'D" I normally don't like the hourglass shaped holders but this one is surprisingly comfortable. I'd love to see a version of this curvy thing in better materials.

 

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Hi, everyone! Taking some reading notes with a Sailor Pro Gear sporting a juicy B nib. Ink is Kobe #14 Maya Lapis.

 

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Snak: Thanks for the great photos and description of what the "L" in a BL or BBL nib means, with the writing examples. There is always something new to learn here!

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Sharkpie, I believe "L" in ML, BL, and BBL stands for Lettering. They have a really flat and round foot ground to the blobby tipping. So Lettering nibs produce really wet but flat looking lines with no line variation at all, and have very small sweet spot. I had two of the BBL so I sent one to Mr. Pendleton Brown to have it ground to a more acute than usual 30-degree left oblique. Here are a few shots of the Lettering nibs comparing them to a regular steel B nib.

 

From left to right: Pelikan Steel <B>, <BL>, <BBL> and a 30 degrees oblique nib ground from <BBL>.

21211924619_7eb8f8e8c5_b.jpg

 

20777731793_ef7a003cc8_b.jpg

 

21211888049_1d9fcd1c8c_b.jpg

 

20776058404_1019105deb_b.jpg

Nibs: Pelikan Steel <B>, <BL>, <BBL>, and a 30-degree oblique nib ground from <BBL>

Ink: Pelikan Edelstein Amethyst

Paper: Tomoe River (White)

Excellent writing sample and explanation thanks 😊

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SNAK, thanks for the valuable information about these "L" nibs.

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Sharkpie, I believe "L" in ML, BL, and BBL stands for Lettering. They have a really flat and round foot ground to the blobby tipping. So Lettering nibs produce really wet but flat looking lines with no line variation at all, and have very small sweet spot. I had two of the BBL so I sent one to Mr. Pendleton Brown to have it ground to a more acute than usual 30-degree left oblique. Here are a few shots of the Lettering nibs comparing them to a regular steel B nib.

 

From left to right: Pelikan Steel <B>, <BL>, <BBL> and a 30 degrees oblique nib ground from <BBL>.

21211924619_7eb8f8e8c5_b.jpg

 

20777731793_ef7a003cc8_b.jpg

 

21211888049_1d9fcd1c8c_b.jpg

 

20776058404_1019105deb_b.jpg

Nibs: Pelikan Steel <B>, <BL>, <BBL>, and a 30-degree oblique nib ground from <BBL>

Ink: Pelikan Edelstein Amethyst

Paper: Tomoe River (White)

Thank you SNAK! I really appreciate it & love that I learned something new

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With all these dip nibs on here, of late, I've realised that I have a couple of questions that can only be answered by folks who are reasonably experienced with them. Is there a forum or thread, on FPN, where I can ask some "newbie numbskull" questions of dip-nib deities?

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With all these dip nibs on here, of late, I've realised that I have a couple of questions that can only be answered by folks who are reasonably experienced with them. Is there a forum or thread, on FPN, where I can ask some "newbie numbskull" questions of dip-nib deities?

 

To attract the most attention, I'd just put the question in the "Fountain & Dip Pen - First Stop" thread . If it's specifically calligraphy related, there is a somewhat neglected forum for Calligraphy Discussions or the more specific Pointed Pen Calligraphy or Broad Pen Calligraphy forums.

 

If it's really esoteric, some of us are also members over in the Flourish Forum, another site where the true deities of the dip pen hang out. (though some occasionally appear here, like Ken Fraser) Compared to the real gods of dip-nibs, most of us are so far from deities we're not even ranked as novitiates yet. We're still sweeping the floors. (to give you an idea of what's possible when you're a deity, here's a picture Ken recently posted on the The Flourish Forum where he explained that he wrote the E and the R in one "continuous, single, downward stroke.")

 

“When the historians of education do equal and exact justice to all who have contributed toward educational progress, they will devote several pages to those revolutionists who invented steel pens and blackboards.” V.T. Thayer, 1928

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