Pens Everyone Seems To Love That You Hate

[proton007]

Sheaffers for some reason. Never been a fan of the shape or style.

[sirgilbert357]

I might get flamed for this, but:

 

Mont Blanc -- literally nothing I've seen by them really interests me. I'm sure they're nice enough pens, but I just have zero desire for one. This is also the "Rolex Sub" (status symbol, among other things) of the pen world and that's a pretty big turnoff in of itself for me.

 

Visconti, Aurora -- Visconti does some very interesting things with materials on some of their pens, which I like, but most of the time the actual design falls flat for me. I've also never liked their "arch" style clip (or whatever term should be used to describe it). It adds no elegance at all in my eyes. Aurora pens just don't appear that "special" to me. The first time I ever recall seeing one in person was at a pen show and I was like "Uh...so? Is this supposed to be WORTH the asking price, or am I just missing the mystique of the brand?" Clearly, I am missing the mystique, because many people seem to like them.

 

A lot of modern Parkers. I probably don't really need to explain that one, but I just feel like the best Parkers are vintage most of the time; design wise and sometimes build quality-wise. I haven't tried a Sonnet yet though (isn't that supposed to be their flagship model?), so maybe that is an exception.

 

I'm sure there are more, but that's all I've got at the moment.

[marcelo]

I might get flamed for this, but:

 

Mont Blanc -- literally nothing I've seen by them really interests me. I'm sure they're nice enough pens, but I just have zero desire for one. This is also the "Rolex Sub" (status symbol, among other things) of the pen world and that's a pretty big turnoff in of itself for me.

 

 

I`m here not to flame, but back you up on this.

 

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[Peppers]

 

I`m here not to flame, but back you up on this.

 

http://hartsook.com/wp-content/uploads/Borat_two-thumbs-up.jpg

 

+3

 

This is how I feel when I look at MBs. (Picture stolen from google images). No way I can wield that.

 

http://www.baltpens.org/Images/BFPSgroup.jpg

[Thunderpants]

Instead of a Montblanc I'd rather five or six cheaper but more visually interesting pens.

 

Plus, if I spent 400 euros on a fountain pen, I know I'd lose it within a week.

[Arkanabar]

Pens that have disappointed me:

Lamy's Safari/ Al-Star/ Vista/ Joy, and the Jinhao 599, which is modeled on it. The facets don't help me at all, and I find the section annoyingly narrow, it encourages me to hold it too close to the point, and the balance goes way off when it's posted. And Lamy nibs do run pretty broad.

The 78G is also a bit slim for me, but it's a lot easier to deal with than the Lamy school pen grip mentioned above.

Lamy 2000. I'm one of the people who finds the "ears" (points of the cap retention spring) really annoying. I made sure to check for this BEFORE I considered buying one, and boy am I glad I did.

Noodler's. I've bought one, been given three, got two with a bottle of Borealis Black, and my wife also has three. The Ahabs (which include the one I bought) are thick enough to cause writer's cramp, and one has severe and never-ending flow issues that no amount of heat setting are able to correct. The Konrad dries out enough to require a dunk in water after only a few hours of sitting capped. My wife's three Nib Creapers also all dried out, though I have to admit she doesn't write a whole lot. And I'm generally reluctant to put eyedroppers to use, when temperatures vary as much as they do here where I live.

Pilot VP; I once had a stealth facets matte black, and I used it so little that I gave it to my wife. She used it so little that it got misplaced in a move.

Pens I know I will never like, even though I've never tried them.

Cross. You can blame the Century II ballpoint, but their typical design aesthetic -- slim, with shiny metal and on the heavy side -- is the exact opposite of my taste.

I know lots of people love Italix pens, but my weight limit is around 30g, and that's anywhere from 25%-50% lighter than any that they make. This is also why I won't ever have a Jinhao X450. I *might* get an X750 at some point, but I might not.

Lest somebody think Lamy has no pens I might consider, I'm ready to consider a Logo and possibly a matte section Studio.

It took me a while to get used to the shape of "sleek" pens (e.g., "51", Hero 616, PFM, Sheaffer Imperial). I generally find myself gripping them at least 35-40mm back from the point. I have to hold them right about where the hood/section joins the barrel.

As has been said many times before, these are personal preferences, both for and against various things. While I will never again buy a Safari-grip pen for my own use, I would never dream of saying they are eeevil, and should be taken off the market.

One of my things here is to ensure that when the Lamy Safari and Pilot Metro are suggested as starter pens, that the PLatinum Plaisir is recommended after them. Given that it hasn't been mentioned as a disappointing pen yet in this thread (except for blanket disappointment with all PLatinum pens), I think it really ought to be mentioned first. /|;^)

[sirgilbert357]

 

I`m here not to flame, but back you up on this.

 

http://hartsook.com/wp-content/uploads/Borat_two-thumbs-up.jpg

 

LOL...Borat. Nice...

[sirgilbert357]

 

+3

 

This is how I feel when I look at MBs. (Picture stolen from google images). No way I can wield that.

 

http://www.baltpens.org/Images/BFPSgroup.jpg

 

But just think of the ink capacity on that thing! Fill it an fergit it!!! Those guys on the right side of the screen look questionable, lol.

 

Yeah anything bigger than an M600 is too much for me honestly.

[Thunderpants]

The smart way to fill it would be to order 6000 30ml bottles of J Herbin ink, pour them in the bathtub and fill the pen in the bathroom.

It would be a little annoying, though, to then realise that Blue Myosotis isn't your cup of tea...

[Cryptos]

Had to go and look up "Myosotis", thought it may have been an interesting disease associated with anoxia. Turns out it's the name of a flower.

[tinta]

I should add that I have been" less than fond" of a sharp step-down from the barrel of a pen to its grip/section.

This edge gets too close to where I hold my pen as I write.

 

My beautifully machined, clip-less Edison Purple Web Pearl is such a pen. A poor man's Nakaya with an 18K stub, if you will.

The real Nakayas that I've seen & the few that I've actually tried out, have this similar step-down feature. I know that there are leagues of Nakaya users who will say this step is no problem for them, but I do not find this feature comfortable. Not for long writing sessions anyway.

 

The only way I'll be able to try out Nakaya's excellent 14K Nakata nibs & another equally excellent Mottishaw customization, is to order a Nakaya Briarwood pen, which has a long resin grip section & a gradual transition from the wood barrel to the grip.

No step-down,... but a pen with a clutch cap. For me, the jury is still out on clutch-caps for daily writers pens.

 

My Edison will soon go on sale. With a 0.75 USD Canadian Dollar, I still have a lot of saving to do, be able to afford a Nakaya Briarwood paid for in USD.

Edited December 6, 2015 by tinta

[Orpilorp]

Any pen with a metal section

 

Any pen with 'Cross' written on it

[jmccarty3]

The only way I'll be able to try out Nakaya's excellent 14K Nakata nibs & another equally excellent Mottishaw customization, is to order a Nakaya Briarwood pen, which has a long resin grip section & a gradual transition from the wood barrel to the grip.

No step-down,... but a pen with a clutch cap. For me, the jury is still out on clutch-caps for daily writers pens.

 

Compare, on nibs.com, the Nakaya Sandblasted Briarwood for $450 (http://nibs.com/nakaya-briarwood-sandblasted.htm) and the Platinum 3776 Briar Shell Sandblasted for $640 (http://www.nibs.com/platinum-3776-briar-shell-sandblasted.htm). Why the price difference? They appear to be the same pen.

[tinta]

Just recently I was discussing the Shell Briarwood Platinum pen & its sister Nakaya Briarwood with a FPN member. I looked up these two pens to find out what's the difference between them. Only the nib (engraving) it seems, the name & the "shell" finish.

 

From what I understand, the "shell" briar material is not just sandblasted, the way many briar tobacco pipes are usually finished. I think there is an additional urushi finish on top of the briar. This may make a price difference, but not + 200.00 USD.

Maybe the seller will ask for as much as the traffic will bear?

 

If I were to purchase one, I'd go for the Nakaya dark matte briar finish, with a customized Nakata BB nib (stub).

At the moment it's just a pipe dream.

Edited December 6, 2015 by tinta

[marcelo]

Had to go and look up "Myosotis", thought it may have been an interesting disease associated with anoxia. Turns out it's the name of a flower.

 

I was about to do the same thing when I read your reply. Thanks!

[jmccarty3]

 

At the moment it's just a pipe dream.

 

I see what you did there.

[jmccarty3]

Had to go and look up "Myosotis", thought it may have been an interesting disease associated with anoxia. Turns out it's the name of a flower.

 

When I first encountered this ink, I misread the name as "Myositis" and wondered why they were naming an ink after an inflammatory disease of the muscles.

[Thunderpants]

"...wondered why they were naming an ink after an inflammatory disease of the muscles."

 

Hey, that's a terrific idea for a new Diamine box set. After flowers and composers, how about a bunch of inks celebrating the diseases, skin conditions and other colourful ailments?

Gangrene Green being the obvious one...

[vorpal]

"...wondered why they were naming an ink after an inflammatory disease of the muscles."

 

Hey, that's a terrific idea for a new Diamine box set. After flowers and composers, how about a bunch of inks celebrating the diseases, skin conditions and other colourful ailments?

Gangrene Green being the obvious one...

 

Pox Pink, Inflammation Red, Cyanosis Blue, Bile Green, Sallow Yellow, Kaposi Purple...

Edited December 7, 2015 by vorpal

[Blue_Moon]

 

Pox Pink, Inflammation Red, Cyanosis Blue, Bile Green, Sallow Yellow, Kaposi Purple...

 

Someone's definitely too close to the edge.