Koh-I-Noor Document Fountain Pen Inks...

[hari317]

http://www.koh-i-noor.cz/media/files/content/tuse-a-inkousty.pdf

 

has anyone on FPN used these Document inks fit for fountain pens?

 

Thanks!

Hari

[Aashish Bagdi]

Sorry Hari Sir never used that ink ....... By the way this company is based in which country ?? And what is the price per bottle ?? A quick glance over your given ink didn't reveal too much ; but if it's mentioned there please excuse my ignorance !!!

 

Regards

Aashish Bagdi

[amberleadavis]

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/229686-koh-i-noor-black-ink-review/

 

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/254880-koh-i-noor-blue-review/

[amberleadavis]

Koh-I-Noor

Black rochester21's

Blue congo's

Green TLab3000's

[hari317]

Thanks Mod! I was curious about their document inks, I did a search before I started this topic but nothing came up, except an offer for a review of the document ink.

 

Best

Hari

[amberleadavis]

Yep, I think that's the sum total of the K-I-N document inks. So, we need your input, please.

[hari317]

I hope someone from the Czech Republic or its neighboring countries has used the ISO grade "Document" ink from KIN and comes across this thread and can tell us.

[amberleadavis]

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[Kanka]

Hi, I'm from the Czech Republic and inks KOH-I-NOOR use.

 

 

English for possible problems is guilty only GOOGLE - translator:-)))

 

 

 

 

On the subject of the document inks (there are blue and black) - in terms of resistance are very interesting. Properties, especially the blue document ink KOH-I-NOOR could be (according to reviews and experiences described on this forum) compared to NOODLER'S Baystay BLUE (although I ink this NOODLERS no personally tried it because of customs and transportation here is 15 times more expensive than the document KOH-I-NOOR). They are not iron-gall inks, IMHO is a cellulose - reactive inks, .desinfekce bleach (5% sodium hypochlorite NaClO) document KIN inks had no effect.

<img src="http://www.bastleni.wz.cz/obrazky/pera/test_savo_en.jpg">

 

 

 

Positives document inks KOH-I-NOOR:

- Are highly resistant to fading sun UV radiation

- Are highly resistant to water

- Are highly resistant to bleach

- In the pen no tend to drying

- Are suitable for "dry" pen - the ink flows very well and in pens where other ink dries

- Price in the Czech Republic is very low, glass bottle of ink 30 ml costs 3 USD, 50 ml plastic bottle with ink costs less than $ 1 :-)

 

 

Negatives:

- The colors are no very saturated, blacks are rather gray-black

- And many days with dried ink on paper can track the movement of the finger pressure slightly blur

- Because of the low surface tension can be especially blue document ink in the bottle to form a bubble - Froth

- Because of the low surface tension ink is not suitable for wet ink pen track ( the ink is too much)

- Because of its low surface tension may adhere to the pen nib and create a path for ink River

- Only two colors (blue and black) - but they are going to mix with each other, with ordinary nodocument inks KOH-I-NOOR

- Coloring the plastic parts of the pen with which they come into contact - Converter ...

- For thorough cleaning without disassembly of the pen (pen I used without problems and without cleaning 2 months) I had to use ultrasonic cleaners, ink to pen holds

 

Pens from my own experience I can recommend for use with blue ink document KOH-I-NOOR: PARKER VECTOR F (even after 30 days of inactivity immediately began writing), Jinhao 611, HERO 8019 - all of these pens is better not to fulfill ink over tip, but directly to the converter (cartridge)

 

Pens me with blue ink document KOH-I-NOOR tested and for this ink is I can not recommend: Generally pen bag stuffed with aerometrical - PILOT 78g FINE (after two weeks of smooth cooperation of ink spilled into the top cap - but the same thing to me with this pen with ink became PILOT Namiki BLUE.:-(). Hero 616 with wet nib (two days normally writes the third day write river of ink)

 

 

Example of resistance - on plain paper from a notebook were written two comparative samples. Pero BAOER 388, ink KOH-I-NOOR document blue. Upper paper was placed in a dry and dark. Lower the paper was for 30 days, chained to a steel pole outdoors and exposed to the weather (daylight, direct sunlight, rain, wind, dew). After a month of very changed the look of paper - turned yellow, but the ink track was unchanged.

<img src="http://www.bastleni.wz.cz/obrazky/pera/k-i-n_dokument_blue_test.jpg">

 

 

A further test - 240 days of sun / rain / wind on a clothesline. Disappeared PELIKAN 4001 blue-black, blue-black HERO, traces of ballpoint pens. Permanent only document inks KOH-I-NOOR, graphite pencil and black ink shellac.

<img src="http://www.bastleni.wz.cz/obrazky/pera/test_balkon_240_dni_en.jpg">

 

 

So when I mixed in a ratio of 1:12 black and blue document KIN, I got the cheapest blue-black ink on the market - and is water resistant, not fade in the sun. I am satisfied with these inks using ordinary notepad paper recycled, unbleached.

 

If you can, try it also, I wonder direct comparison of colors and features KOH-I-NOOR DOKUMENT BLUE / NOODLER'S BAYSTATE BLUE.

[amberleadavis]

Thank you for these great pictures! I'm linking them for you now. In the future, just use the little button with the tree.

 

http://www.bastleni.wz.cz/obrazky/pera/test_savo_en.jpg

[amberleadavis]

Once again, Kanka, thank you for these images!!!

 

http://www.bastleni.wz.cz/obrazky/pera/k-i-n_dokument_blue_test.jpg

[amberleadavis]

Kanka, welcome to FPN, what a great first post!

 

http://www.bastleni.wz.cz/obrazky/pera/test_balkon_240_dni_en.jpg

[hari317]

Hi, I'm from the Czech Republic and inks KOH-I-NOOR use.

 

 

...

Hi Kanka, wonderful contribution, thanks so much! I will look into how to buy some of this ink, I am in India.

 

Best

Hari

[-Greg-]

I have Koh-i-noor Black, Blue and Red fountain pen ink in plastic 50 ml bottles.

Black - is grey, somewhere 7/10 of the gradation.

Blue - very nice light blue but lacks saturation and shading.

Red - is far from being red. It is more pink than red.

 

I paid GEL 2.65 per bottle (at current rate less than 1.5 USD). The ink is very hard to remove from the pen. Especially red one. So try not to leave it in the pen for a long time. Avoid these inks in any demonstrator.

[Kanka]

Hi,i reading this thread - Noodlers Revolution blue. I was moved by this: Almost all blue ink in a bottle is black color. Noodlers Revolution blue is no black, is blue.

 

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-G-MaEhGFwXo/VH31wqUz1sI/AAAAAAAABb4/xKNTAfQGRZc/s1600/noodlers-revolution-blue-ink.jpg

 

In bottle is a KOH-I-NOOR document blue - blue. Here is a photo to compare Parker Quink Permanent blue and Koh-i-noor document blue. http://www.bastleni.wz.cz/obrazky/pera/parker_quink_vs_koh-i-noor.jpg

 

 

Noodlers Revolution blue and Koh-i-noor document blue - are similar in appearance. They also have similar properties? Who does the comparison?

[vladano]

Hi!

 

Im from Ceske Budejovice (Budweis), where is Koh-i-noor plant.

 

Im using document inks for a very long time. These (black and blue) are after many years of development usable for fountain pens.

Inks which was made before cca 10 years ago was very corrosive for FP so was usable with dip nibs only.

These new I have in my FP for 2 years without cleaning without any problems but I can see that the FP needs to clean now.

Im using them in Noodlers Ahab pens. But I will never get it to any flex pen with gold nib and gumm sack - for sure .

As I asked in KIN plant - these inks must be really document - Each written text has to have a lifetime of hundrets years and survive more than only water or UV radiation. So they are primary made as a really document ink, not - this ink isnt really black or this blue isnt so blue as Diamine royal blue... These inks is used for chronicles or registry books and so on.

 

If you want better colours use any other.

If you want save your text for future, use KIN document inks.

 

Thats all, I hope I helped you a little.

Sorry for my english ;-).

[amberleadavis]

I'd love to see these inks ink person. Thank you for sharing.

[dcwaites]

I'd love to see these inks ink person. Thank you for sharing.

 

Here y'are -- http://www.ebay.com/itm/331675587633?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&var=540805017145&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[amberleadavis]

Thank you.

[Noihvo]