Lamy 2000 Anniversary?

[Glenn-SC]

 

As I have said before, "black amber" is the name given to a from of amber.

 

Amber is a natural product, usually somewhat toffee coloured. There apparently also are darker versions, one of those is called "black amber"

 

Oh, I believe that there are shades of amber and that there is (could be) a shade so dark that it could be called "black".

 

I repeat that, IMHO, this pen is neither black, amber, nor any shade of the two.

 

By that reasoning the original stainless steel version could have been called "Snow White"!

[RMN]

 

Oh, I believe that there are shades of amber and that there is (could be) a shade so dark that it could be called "black".

 

I repeat that, IMHO, this pen is neither black, amber, nor any shade of the two.

 

By that reasoning the original stainless steel version could have been called "Snow White"!

 

If they did, would you expect people subsequently to refuse buying it?

 

And it is not called a black or amber pen, in which case you would be right. But it is called "black amber" Your argument would be comparative to saying: a rose gold nib, hah it is neither gold cloured nor looks like a rose.

 

D.ick

[milkb0at]

Looking at the latest photo the new finish looks pretty interesting and I quite like it... but not on a L2K. More like a Studio, Dialog or Imporium.

[Glenn-SC]

 

And it is not called a black or amber pen, in which case you would be right. But it is called "black amber" Your argument would be comparative to saying: a rose gold nib, hah it is neither gold cloured nor looks like a rose.

 

I don't know where you got the "looks like a rose" analogy, but "rose gold" actually does look like a mixture of the colors gold and pinkish (rose).

 

Hey, its Lamy's product and they can all the color anything that they want even if it has no relation to an actual color.

 

 

I had still hoped for and will save my money for something better.

[RMN]

 

I don't know where you got the "looks like a rose" analogy, but "rose gold" actually does look like a mixture of the colors gold and pinkish (rose).

 

Hey, its Lamy's product and they can all the color anything that they want even if it has no relation to an actual color.

 

 

I had still hoped for and will save my money for something better.

 

 

I'm certainly not spending my money on it. But I am not fond of the 2000 anyway. Sample of 1 but mine was a disappointment, and the new nib I got in it is certainly better, but still...

 

I just found your argument on the colour's name incorrect. The colour itself... not my taste either.

 

 

D.ick

[Bluey]

 

 

I'm certainly not spending my money on it. But I am not fond of the 2000 anyway. Sample of 1 but mine was a disappointment, and the new nib I got in it is certainly better, but still...

 

I just found your argument on the colour's name incorrect. The colour itself... not my taste either.

 

 

D.ick

What did you find a disappointment on it, D.ick?

I find on mine that even though the ink is wet the pen seems to run a little dry after a page or two to the point where it will skip a lot.

Edited September 5, 2016 by Bluey

[Tiffanyhenschel]

What did you find a disappointment on it, D.ick?

I find on mine that even though the ink is wet the pen seems to run a little dry after a page or two to the point where it will skip a lot.

This sounds as if there is a clog somewhere.

[Bluey]

This sounds as if there is a clog somewhere.

I hope not. It worked ok with the first ink I tried. I only got the pen a few months ago.

[RMN]

What did you find a disappointment on it, D.ick?

I find on mine that even though the ink is wet the pen seems to run a little dry after a page or two to the point where it will skip a lot.

 

I haven't used mine for four yrs, I think. Bought it and it had a misshapen nib. It was send back to the factory, but was lost in the mail. Found after 9 months and then I received a new nib (perhaps a new pen??) and wrote much better, but the whole pen didn't speak to me. Same with the Pilot Capless which I bought about the same time.

 

I bought both because of the ravenous praise here on FPN, but was disappointed in both. I have several other Pilots and Lamys which are very nice, so nothing against the brand. Perhaps one of the things the Macrolon is too light although being fat. I like my pens to have a bit of heft. Never could warm up to the MB149 and the Omas pens as well. Too light for the size.

 

D.ick

[Tiffanyhenschel]

I hope not. It worked ok with the first ink I tried. I only got the pen a few months ago.

It is worth looking into. What you describe is a "starved feed," which impedes ink flow. A key is that it writes fine for a page or so.

I dealt with this with a Parker 51 that had a clogged breather tube, which I fixed myself, and a MB 146, which I sent to a pro to clean. After he disassembled the pen, he posted a photo showing how clogged the feed was. It was a pen I had recently purchased from the classifieds, and the person previous to me had not flushed well enough between inks.

Anyway -- it is easy to fix if that is the problem. You will need to take the pen apart yourself or send it to a nib person.

Edited September 5, 2016 by Tiffanyhenschel

[Bluey]

 

I haven't used mine for four yrs, I think. Bought it and it had a misshapen nib. It was send back to the factory, but was lost in the mail. Found after 9 months and then I received a new nib (perhaps a new pen??) and wrote much better, but the whole pen didn't speak to me. Same with the Pilot Capless which I bought about the same time.

 

I bought both because of the ravenous praise here on FPN, but was disappointed in both. I have several other Pilots and Lamys which are very nice, so nothing against the brand. Perhaps one of the things the Macrolon is too light although being fat. I like my pens to have a bit of heft. Never could warm up to the MB149 and the Omas pens as well. Too light for the size.

 

D.ick

Sorry to hear about your bad luck.

I rather like the way that it writes because it has a very slight stubbish feel so it gives my writing a lil more character and shading.

My Pilot Capless, although a perfect writer - it's wet, never dries no matter how many pages I write(although I don't typically ever use it for long writing sessions), is super reliable, and can forget about retracting the nib and it will still write after about half hour - BUT, I find it a little boring, if that's the word. It has no quirks to it. Perfection is not really what I'm after, it's an interesting writer.

For me it's not so much about the weight as it is about the overall balance and weight distribution.

[Bluey]

It is worth looking into. What you describe is a "starved feed," which impedes ink flow. A key is that it writes fine for a page or so.

I dealt with this with a Parker 51 that had a clogged breather tube, which I fixed myself, and a MB 146, which I sent to a pro to clean. After he disassembled the pen, he posted a photo showing how clogged the feed was. It was a pen I had recently purchased from the classifieds, and the person previous to me had not flushed well enough between inks.

Anyway -- it is easy to fix if that is the problem. You will need to take the pen apart yourself or send it to a nib person.

Thanks Tiff. To give the pen the benefit of the doubt, it could be a combination of the ink and the paper because the only pens which perform well on this paper are pens which are fine or extra fine. Its a medium nib which tend to be less forgiving of not so perfect paper.

This is how it writes with Diamine Delamere Green. As you can see it's a little dryish and skippy. It writes like that to begin with and then gets worse.

Edited September 5, 2016 by Bluey

[parnesh]

Personally what they should have done was to keep pen material the same and make the barrel a frosted demonstrator or long windows. Would have kept with the ethos of the pen and IMHO improved functionality. After all, the L2K is all about functionality.

[Pen Engineer]

Let it please not be striped pink :-)

now we are talking.... that's really innovative... how do we get the pink stripes onto the plastic? What about a few sprinkled stars?

[Glenn-SC]

 

I just found your argument on the colour's name incorrect. The colour itself... not my taste either.

How was my argument "on the color's name incorrect"?

Your explanation was that "And it is not called a black or amber pen, in which case you would be right. But it is called "black amber"" which means that the adjective "black amber" has nothing to do with the color black or the color amber. But, that the pen color was in reference to a "thing" and not the "color of the thing".

So they could have called it "white diamond" or "precious resin" or "narwhal" and been as equally correct?

[RMN]

How was my argument "on the color's name incorrect"?

Your explanation was that "And it is not called a black or amber pen, in which case you would be right. But it is called "black amber"" which means that the adjective "black amber" has nothing to do with the color black or the color amber. But, that the pen color was in reference to a "thing" and not the "color of the thing".

So they could have called it "white diamond" or "precious resin" or "narwhal" and been as equally correct?

 

Actually, Amber is a tree resin. This has usually a yellowish brown colour, which consecutively is also called amber.

However, there are many colour variations from almost white and pale yellow to very dark versions of amber, which are called "black amber". It is a name that has been in use for a long time.Someone thought it reminded him of the colour black, and he called it black amber. Which should be read as: a very darkish form of tree resin. There is also "cherry amber", "green amber" and "blue amber"

In these examples, the word Amber is not used as the colour, but as the material the colour-name was derived from. There are more natural products that serve as the name-giver for the usual colour of that product (tomato, cherry, strawberry etc)

 

The link I gave above gives some pictures of pieces of "black amber"

Apparently the people at Lamy's thought the colour for their LE reminded them of this "black amber" No one at Lamy said it was a black pen, and no one said it was amber coloured.

Looking at the pictures of "black amber" and the picture of the new Lamy 2000 I could somewhat follow that thought that it reminds of "black amber". (White diamond? no....)

[aalmcc4]

Wow. I'm shocked at all the hate for the 2000 Anniversary LE! I for one like it, and frankly am relieved. I'm relieved because the 2000 LE is still a 2000. Not a junked up version of a 2000 with a goofy fluorescent color scheme or a change in the look and design of the original.

 

It's Bauhaus folks. Look, if you don't like the 2000 or the clean minimalist deign of Bauhaus, that's fine. But I love the design and the pen and kudos to Lamy in keeping the 2000 LE a true 2000.

 

As far as the price....a bit steep, huh? compared to what? Well a standard 2000, of course. But honestly, I still can't believe the price of a standard 2000 is as cheap as it is. For less than $200 US you get a gold nib and a piston filler in an iconic design. We're all spoiled by Lamy's 2000 prices and the features you get for it.

 

Yes, I am a 2000 fan boy. Guilty as charged. I like everything about it.

 

[a m a r g o]

Wow. I'm shocked at all the hate for the 2000 Anniversary LE! I for one like it, and frankly am relieved. I'm relieved because the 2000 LE is still a 2000. Not a junked up version of a 2000 with a goofy fluorescent color scheme or a change in the look and design of the original.

 

It's Bauhaus folks. Look, if you don't like the 2000 or the clean minimalist deign of Bauhaus, that's fine. But I love the design and the pen and kudos to Lamy in keeping the 2000 LE a true 2000.

 

As far as the price....a bit steep, huh? compared to what? Well a standard 2000, of course. But honestly, I still can't believe the price of a standard 2000 is as cheap as it is. For less than $200 US you get a gold nib and a piston filler in an iconic design. We're all spoiled by Lamy's 2000 prices and the features you get for it.

 

Yes, I am a 2000 fan boy. Guilty as charged. I like everything about it.

 

 

Well, actually making the pen in a stainless steel version is against the Bauhaus principles: design for the masses.

[raffor]

Lamy 2000 is still a fp that looks like it's coming from future after 50 years from its first release. It's a limited edition, so that's the price, nothing wrong with it, imho.

[A1979]

Has anyone already ordered the pen (or plans to order it soon)?