Pelikan Vs Asian Fine Tip Nibs

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Maverick, your TWSBI EF looks much thicker than mine. Is it polished?

 

In any case, thanks alot for the samples. Looks great, and fun to do. I love that dot grid ruling. Get's me in the mood to write every time I see it. I'll add some to this post tomorrow or this weekend. Cause everyone likes pictures and your post was inspirational.

Edited February 27, 2015 by transcend

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The line of my new Pelikan m400 extra fine and my Pilot Vanishing Point medium were almost identical. I sent the Pelikan to a nibmeister and bought a fine nib for the VP, then put it away. In the meantime, I have become fond of inexpensive Asian pens. When the Pelikan comes back it will have to compete for a place.

 

I was thinking the same thing before logging in.

 

There's alot of springiness to this (EF) nib that's giving nice line variation, but it's very difficult to maintain a consistent, thin line. The final print, however, looks very good, I look forward to the simple challenge of getting comfortable with it.

 

The VPs are squishier and the tines are intended to split more, and in a sense are more fun than this, but it's not a fair comparison. Apples to oranges, as much as I hate using the cliche (literally on 3 hours sleep in 36 hours so forgive me).

 

It's remarkable the difference in "character" between the 14c-585 F and EF. The feel and flow on the page is different, not like the BROTHERS you'd think they'd be, and also produce different print, with broader line width in the EF than the F because of the greater line variation occurring more often.

 

The reverse side of the nib is writing a clean, consistent line close the a pilot F. No flow problems or skipping on either side of the nib.

 

Quite pleased despite the hit to the wallet. Recommend it to anyone that can afford it.

Edited February 28, 2015 by transcend

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There's alot of springiness to this (EF) nib that's giving nice line variation, but it's very difficult to maintain a consistent, thin line. The final print, however, looks very good, I look forward to the simple challenge of getting comfortable with it....Quite pleased despite the hit to the wallet. Recommend it to anyone that can afford it.

 

The lines of the Pelikan 600 and 605 in Maverick's writing sample above are similar to the line that was produced by my m400, but with my pen there was no springiness or variation. The comparison I drew to a medium VP was to describe line width only, not to suggest similarity between the nibs or pens.

 

When the Pelikan comes back it will get a fair chance, but I have already borne the cost and have yet to see proportional benefit. No doubt, a Pelikan is a higher quality pen than a Platinum Cool and Pelikan's 14k extra fine should be a considerably better writer than the Platinum's fine point, but cost and quality are less important to me than friendliness and compatibility.

[Bo Bo Olson]

""my m400, but with my pen there was no springiness or variation.""..after '97 = semi-nail. Before '98 = regular flex with a tad of spring, like a modern 200's nib.

 

So you have to settle with 'butter smooth', like with a nail or semi-nail.

 

I chase the '50-65 nibs in semi-flex & 'flexi'/maxi-semi-flex, but one needs a couple of nice regular flex nibs (pre '98 or 200's nibs)...in certain inks shade better with them in they are not so wet as a semi-flex.

Edited February 28, 2015 by Bo Bo Olson

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Bo Bo, I have been following your excellent and informative posts. What you describe above is what I am expecting once the nib has been tuned. BTW, I keep resisting the urge to call you Carl. I suspect you know why.

[Bo Bo Olson]

Thanks, I want folks to enjoy them selves with out spending a lot of learning by doing money. The more you know, the better.

 

Carl?? Not really, names Bill. Living in Germany, I'm isolated from the buzz words.

 

Bo Bo Olson was a short armed boxer; one and only Champ at Middleweight for @ 2 years in the early '50's, who came fit to fight, beat all but the very best and took his beating like a man. Got KO'ed by Robinson and Archie Moore, but stayed a single line top ten fighter in two 'real' weight divisions for some 12 years. That was impressive in the deep talent pool days.

Needing a net name, took his....he proved you don't have to be perfect to be someone, just give your best...I liked him as a kid, even though I was a fan of Robinson....later thought he was like most of us; so was a good example. A good reminder to me.

Edited February 28, 2015 by Bo Bo Olson

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Thanks, I want folks to enjoy them selves with out spending a lot of learning by doing money. The more you know, the better.

 

Carl?? Not really, names Bill. Living in Germany, I'm isolated from the buzz words....Bo Bo Olson was a short armed boxer; one and only Champ at Middleweight for @ 2 years in the early '50's, who came fit to fight, beat all but the very best and took his beating like a man. Got KO'ed by Robinson and Archie Moore, but stayed a single line top ten fighter in two 'real' weight divisions for some 12 years. That was impressive in the deep talent pool days.

 

 

His name was Carl. Bo Bo was a nickname, coined by his sister who couldn't quite pronounce "brother."

[Bo Bo Olson]

Yes, now I remember.

 

Boxing was the second biggest sport...before Neilson refused to put his rating box in bars where most men watched the fights....so I love Lucy KO'ed boxing.

 

In '53 at age 5 I saw a light weight neighbor man, who'd been given a black eye by his light heavy wife while watching boxing....I slipped my way in to watch the "fights". In Miami there were only two TV channels.

The kitchen light was on....B&W TV's then could hardly be seen if any light from a lamp or out side fell on them. Living room was lighted by the TV screen. I sat to the side of the TV so I could watch the fight and the couple on the couch....sort of frog eyed.

 

Watching that woman, I learned it all that night....how to jab, how to hook, cross, upper cut....how a husband can sway just a bit out of the way, how to get a hand up to block with.....and if that man on the TV had done what she told him....he'd won.

 

Carl had 5 fights with Robinson, I saw the last two, where Bo Bo was knocked out both times. In the last fight I'd just hoped he'd get in one good punch to feel good about it....but he didn't.

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Speaking of boxing, Sylvester Stallone is a big FP fan/supporter.