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Thanks RichKen for your kind words. :)

 

There's something I dont understand and want to ask ,

when you put that large dollop of glue on the silk (or cloth for that matter) to begin spreading it all round the fabric, doesnt the glue eventually seep thru to the 'right' side of the silk cloth, damaging it ?

 

I am thinking of an attempt as close to the video clip as possible , but since I cant afford to ruin any silk cloth, I would probably start on a small piece , maybe B5 in size , or at the most, A3 in size.

This is because I dont have M Cellulose to slow down the glue-drying time.

 

My worry is whether the pVA glue will seep thru to the other side of the fabric.

 

I am walking thru the technique mentally, and at the moment, it seems very 'hairy'.

 

Any thoughts , advice ?

 

Your worry is correct, PVA will seep thru and stain the good side of the fabric. The magic here is just Methyl C., no PVA added. It dries clear and what residue appears on the face of the fabric I've found will brush off with a damp paper towel leaving no stain on the fabric. Finding a source in the states is not a problem as most book supply houses seem to offer it (ie John Neal, Talas, Hollanders to name a few). However shipping to your location I'm not familiar with. I've experimented with a variety of fabrics and the closest to silk is a batik fabric that is silk like but most likely synthetic. Suggest you pursue the Methyl C. source and experiment with it before using your silk. Anyone out there know of a source for TML's location. There is a food grade Methyl Cellulose which you might be able to find thru food sources.

 

Also, you might look into rice or wheat paste as an interface glue which you could source easier but I can't offer any experience there.

 

I've also used Heat and Bond, an iron on interface which would be less threatening to your silk.

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gorgeous silk!

The spatula or spreading device would have to be perfectly smooth.

From the video's I just viewed, a thin, even spread to fill the back of the fabric, but not unevenly soak through is the issue.

I see an alternate method to the video you showed which includes PVA, which if it's the Polyvinyl I think they refer to, would not be my choice for longevity, though the claim is acid free/archival. Total lack of knowledge in bookbinding so ignore Anything I say ; )

This is a university bookbinding blog which suggests their procedure, and with links, though if it were me, I'd follow the Mr. Sage procedure, testing 1st.

http://ola-ssd.blogspot.com/2012/03/fix-it-friday-using-methyl-cellulose-in.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyvinyl_acetate

 

 

I am a little puzzled , still.

 

maybe the MC is too thick and gelatinous to pass thru the fabric.

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Your worry is correct, PVA will seep thru and stain the good side of the fabric. The magic here is just Methyl C., no PVA added. It dries clear and what residue appears on the face of the fabric I've found will brush off with a damp paper towel leaving no stain on the fabric. Finding a source in the states is not a problem as most book supply houses seem to offer it (ie John Neal, Talas, Hollanders to name a few). However shipping to your location I'm not familiar with. I've experimented with a variety of fabrics and the closest to silk is a batik fabric that is silk like but most likely synthetic. Suggest you pursue the Methyl C. source and experiment with it before using your silk. Anyone out there know of a source for TML's location. There is a food grade Methyl Cellulose which you might be able to find thru food sources.

 

Also, you might look into rice or wheat paste as an interface glue which you could source easier but I can't offer any experience there.

 

I've also used Heat and Bond, an iron on interface which would be less threatening to your silk.

 

 

Thanks.

 

Yes, I have used Heat n Bond before.

Certainly is less risky.

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I was just gifted a fresh set of Library Buckram colours ....

 

and this is a tribute to S. Salgado ....

from his GENESIS portfolio of pics ...

 

all to be gifted away ... :)

 

A very warm Charcoal Grey ...

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/6fh87msr_zpsdfc3c753.png

 

 

Black ...

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/5y6bj4ux_zps11a8ab10.png

 

and

Oxblood ...

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/fzzt1uco_zps0c35d693.png

 

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/013_zps5fb7d4cc.jpg

 

 

TM:

 

This looks like a great approach to addressing a journal with a cover that features or suggests glaciers!

 

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This looks like a great approach to addressing a journal with a cover that features or suggests glaciers!

 

Yes indeed .

 

It's possible.

 

Still mulling over how to incorporate both ideas perhaps :-)

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Just my luck ....

 

Managed to buy some M Cellulose ....

 

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/BOOKBINDING/methyl%20cellulose/bb5b7a75d110d132df56d051346d43d6_zpsf3ecdc8c.jpg

 

 

Now what ?!

 

How to measure out , and how to determine quantity of mix etc ..

 

Instructions anyone ?

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Wonderful!

That is just amazing. :)

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Just my luck ....

 

Managed to buy some M Cellulose ....

 

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/BOOKBINDING/methyl%20cellulose/bb5b7a75d110d132df56d051346d43d6_zpsf3ecdc8c.jpg

 

 

Now what ?!

 

How to measure out , and how to determine quantity of mix etc ..

 

Instructions anyone ?

 

http://miniatures.about.com/od/gluereviews/f/Methyl-Cellulose-Glue-For-Miniatures.htm

 

A link with some info to start you off using Methyl Cellulose

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Yes indeed .

It's possible.

Still mulling over how to incorporate both ideas perhaps :-)

I just love this picture ....

 

Amazing formation ...

 

But I am wondering how to emplace this picture on these A5 covers?

 

Beautiful pic but covers a tad too small...

 

Ideas anyone ?

 

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/JOURNAL%20IDEAS/01103c77b45e1dcdaf3655f42e65f971_zps8bea12c2.jpg

 

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/JOURNAL%20IDEAS/1b7fbd44df31652eea6e19b82e8a6475_zpsc6cb5562.jpg

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Hi T M Lee

Your work continues to fascinate me.

With regard to pva and material I had a similar problem with velvet the solution was to apply the pva to the card and allow to almost dry before applying the cloth then heat with an iron.

My idea for the large picture is to make a larger book maybe in landscape format.

 

Keep up the excellent work I often read your thread when I need inspiration.

 

Michael

For more details on my current projects please visit my blog.

 

https://my63leather.wixsite.com/my63

 

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I think Michael is spot on. Make a landscape format book - it would do the picture justice.

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Hi T M Lee

Your work continues to fascinate me.

With regard to pva and material I had a similar problem with velvet the solution was to apply the pva to the card and allow to almost dry before applying the cloth then heat with an iron.

My idea for the large picture is to make a larger book maybe in landscape format.

 

Keep up the excellent work I often read your thread when I need inspiration.

 

Michael

Thanks my63,

yes, one of the thumbrules of glueing is always to apply glue on the denser material.

No matter what kind of glue used.

 

 

I think Michael is spot on. Make a landscape format book - it would do the picture justice.

Yes it did occurred to me ,

it does fit in a landscape format ,

but landscape format is not always readily accepted.

Its a less common format.

hence it wasn't my first option.

 

i also find A5 landscape format more inconvenient - it means using A3 size paper, but cutting into size, lengthwise.

I find it troublesome. :(

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Well, it is a format I do use occasionally, and I have several. Not the beauties that you make, but I recently used an A5 TR pad as a landscape notebook. It works fine for me.

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This is Journal 192 "BUCKRAM - Oxblood"

A6 size

To be gifted away.

This is the first completed journal in my new range of the ARBELAVE Library Buckram series .

Front
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/192%20Buckram%20-%20Oxblood/DSCF0190_zpsfc75e36d.jpg

Rear
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/192%20Buckram%20-%20Oxblood/DSCF0193_zpseb349658.jpg

Band deployed
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/192%20Buckram%20-%20Oxblood/DSCF0194_zps066160e9.jpg

Nice black band by PRYM, Germany
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/192%20Buckram%20-%20Oxblood/DSCF0195_zps5a186c94.jpg

The request was for mango coloured stitches ...
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/192%20Buckram%20-%20Oxblood/DSCF0197_zpsb296e3cb.jpg


I decided to do a six station stitch even though a four station stitch would do.
I wanted to , for just aesthetic reasons.
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/192%20Buckram%20-%20Oxblood/DSCF0198_zps9440f7f0.jpg

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/192%20Buckram%20-%20Oxblood/DSCF0199_zpsf6729032.jpg

http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/192%20Buckram%20-%20Oxblood/DSCF0205_zps429950ed.jpg


Full spread
For the stitches, I also reduced the length on the covers abit.
Here it is 12mm instead of my usual 15mm.
Looks more pleasant.
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/192%20Buckram%20-%20Oxblood/DSCF0203_zps183e09d8.jpg

Now with the matching mango coloured flyleaves in view...
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/192%20Buckram%20-%20Oxblood/DSCF0204_zps7cacfbc6.jpg


The front flyleaves ...
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/192%20Buckram%20-%20Oxblood/DSCF0209_zps1b768cd1.jpg


Rear pocket and name card slot
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/192%20Buckram%20-%20Oxblood/DSCF0200_zpsee256f05.jpg


Inktestpage
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/192%20Buckram%20-%20Oxblood/DSCF0184_zpsb057d23f.jpg

Colophon
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/192%20Buckram%20-%20Oxblood/DSCF0207_zpsdfb1f70e.jpg


Writing paper is MAGIC COMMA, 120g, Beige
7 Signatures , 4 Folios each
Total 112 pages


I was very surprised by the paper.
It was less rough on one side.
So I expected feathering like crazy.
But ...
No feathering, no bleedthru.
Not even shadow !!!
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/192%20Buckram%20-%20Oxblood/DSCF0186_zpsa08fe221.jpg




Reverse side
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/192%20Buckram%20-%20Oxblood/DSCF0188_zps0b688c58.jpg



Reverse side backlit
Only when it's backlit, do you see shadow, but even so, just barely.
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/192%20Buckram%20-%20Oxblood/DSCF0189_zpsea1b2ca9.jpg



Very surprised with this paper,
Cos the recipient wasn't a FP user and didn't mind non-ink-friendly paper.
He just wanted brown (kraft) paper.



The buckram texture
http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o704/tmleem4/JOURNALS/2014/BUCKRAM/192%20Buckram%20-%20Oxblood/DSCF0210_zpsecf9482d.jpg

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Love the cover color. And I even like the combination with the stitches and flyleaves!

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Another beautiful book!

 

Now I have a question :)

 

When you make the sections, do you "fold then cut", or "cut then fold"? Your pages all seem to line up nice and neatly, and you have really nice curve to the corners. I'd love to see how you manage it!

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love the texture of the cover material

Love the cover color. And I even like the combination with the stitches and flyleaves!

Thanks :)

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Another beautiful book!

 

Now I have a question :)

 

When you make the sections, do you "fold then cut", or "cut then fold"? Your pages all seem to line up nice and neatly, and you have really nice curve to the corners. I'd love to see how you manage it!

 

 

Mentioned here sometime ago ...

I fold the entire Signature at one go...

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/28367-homemade-journal/?view=findpost&p=2761086

 

I cut my papers into size, then gather the required number of Folios to form one Signature, then fold the Signature.

 

 

To round the corners, I use a corner punch that looks like this ...

https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/index.php/topic/28367-homemade-journal/?view=findpost&p=2185350

 

I gather all the Folios for one Signature, then punch together , before folding them into a Signature.

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